<stickies-v>
I can't see any other WG leads here, so moving on to the proposed topics
<stickies-v>
#topic secp256k1 maintainer transition: stepping down and proposing a new maintainer (nickler)
<nickler>
Hey everyone, I'm stepping down as a libsecp256k1 maintainer. Over the past few months, I haven't been able to dedicate the time and attention that the role deserves, and I don't expect that to change in the foreseeable future.
<nickler>
Pieter, Tim, and I would like to suggest theStack as a new maintainer. We've reached out to him, and he said he'd be very happy to take on the role. He has consistently shown that he cares about maintainability and review quality, has contributed and reviewed regularly, and has also shepherded the largest feature PR we've had in quite some time (silent payments module).
<nickler>
We'd like to hear whether there are any concerns, objections, or other feedback on this proposal.
<fjahr>
no concerns, ack
<furszy>
ACK
<l0rinc>
ACK for Sebastian as secp maintainer, congrats
<cfields>
+1 theStack
<dergoegge>
ack, no concerns
<brunoerg>
ACK
<hebasto>
ack
<andrewtoth>
ack
<dzxzg>
maintainer ack
<sliv3r__>
ack
<willcl-ark>
thanks for your service nickler!
<furszy>
+1
<theStack>
nickler: big shoes to fill. thanks for all your work!
<sipa>
ACK
<darosior>
hi
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<janb84>
ack
<sipa>
also hi
<nickler>
thanks a lot for giving me that opportunity in the first place! it was an honor
<stickies-v>
thanks a lot for your work so far nickler, and I agree theStack would be an excellent choice if he's up for it!
<sipa>
nickler: thank you for all the work you put in the project, and thanks theStack for willing to take up the role :)
<willcl-ark>
theStack seems like an excellent candidate to me
<darosior>
ACK for theStack for maintainer. One question i have (genuine, i don't really pay attention to the repo) is how much maintainer work is the bottleneck compared to cryptography expert reviews?
<b10c>
thanks nickler! and ACK theStack.
<darosior>
(And thanks nickler for all the maintainer work up to this point.)
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<darosior>
And how much theStack's nomination would help with that
<ekzyis>
hi
<l0rinc>
thestACK
<darosior>
:)
<nickler>
darosior: I think most of the work is maintenance, code review, and what direction the library should take. Applied cryptographic engineering is definitely important, the more theoretical aspects (protocol security) are more rare, especially if we have a well-reviewed BIP.
<abubakarsadiq>
ack theStack \o/
<stickies-v>
#topic QA WG (brunoerg)
<nickler>
Ok, sounds like we should go ahead with the transition. Thanks for the feedback. And if there are any other comments, let us know.
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<johnny9dev>
Hi. Got caught up today. We're on track to have our preview build ready next week. One more feature PR to go
<johnny9dev>
That qml preview build I will sign myself so it can run on macos
<sliv3r__>
nice!
<johnny9dev>
For work on staging branch it's still a work in progress. I think I like the idea of doing it in chunks. https://github.com/johnny9/bitcoin/pull/1 is what my current first chunk looks like at the moment.
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<darosior>
I agree with stickies-v's call for open channels. How about using Delving Bitcoin's working groups feature for that?
<darosior>
For sensitive discussions, it's also possible to have invite-only private working groups. (I've been using one for BIP 54 for over 2 years to share details about worst blocks.)
<stickies-v>
darosior: is there an example of an open working group on delving? on https://delvingbitcoin.org/g I can only see the silent payments one but that's private
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<darosior>
Looks like you weren't on the Consensus Cleanup one, added you there
<darosior>
Then there was one on cluster mempool i think?
<darosior>
What i think is nice about having a private Delving group vs a Signal chat for private but not critically secret discussions, is that it can eventually be made public for posterity.
<stickies-v>
yes, posterity is my main driver. it's so cool that for a lot of bitcoin's historical (design) decisions the rationale and discourse is available to everyone, and i think it's important we try to preserve that culture
<stickies-v>
ah, i see. not familiar with discourse / how that all works, but that's cool then. will look into it more
<darosior>
Maybe _aj_ can chime in when he is around
<sipa>
We had a private discussion group on delving for a while, for cluster mempool. It's quite good as a replacement for a chat, as it's richer (formatting, latex, cleaner images, ...) and more structured (separate threads).
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<bitcoin-git>
[bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #35601: wallet: remove experimental warning from send and sendall (master...2026/06/send) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35601
<bitcoin-git>
bitcoin/master 93012d7 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#35601: wallet: remove experimental warning from send...
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<nkaretnikov>
i think all discussions should be public unless they are reports of security vulnerabilities. those should be made public too, once the software is patched. this helps with discoverability, preserves important decisions that might be relevant later, and overall makes the project more welcoming
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<pinheadmz>
i think private throwaway chats are more fun and easier to use, access on mobile and get notifications etc. more like being in the same room with a coworker. Sometimes you just wanna send a meme