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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] l0rinc opened pull request #35572: coins: make cursor iteration DB-only (master...l0rinc/coins-view-db-cursor) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35572
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1a2523e901a6...c0922f78af9e
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8f03549 fanquake: depends: latest config.guess & config.sub
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c0922f7 Hennadii Stepanov: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#35567: depends: latest config.guess & config.sub
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto merged pull request #35567: depends: latest config.guess & config.sub (master...latest_config_guess_sub) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35567
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] l0rinc opened pull request #35573: build: guard forced inlining (master...l0rinc/guard-forced-inlining) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35573
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c0922f78af9e...ea626c268add
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fab2874 MarcoFalke: lint: Require scripted-diff script to succeed
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ea626c2 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#35560: lint: Require scripted-diff script to succeed...
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sedited merged pull request #35560: lint: Require scripted-diff script to succeed (take 2) (master...2606-lint) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35560
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<BlueMatt[m]> So GitHub has decided that LDK is permanently banned from access to CI, including self-hosted CI. All our contacts resulted in “sorry, we aren’t going to reconsider, and no we won’t tell you why, go fuck yourself”
<BlueMatt[m]> That plus outages and the general trend of GitHub towards worse and worse features and customer service this seems like there’s more than enough reason for everyone to move off GitHub at this point.
<BlueMatt[m]> I’d really strongly encourage folks to seriously consider one of the many pretty-much-equivalent services at this point.
<nkaretnikov> BlueMatt[m]: what was their justification for the ban?
<BlueMatt[m]> “ToS Violations”
<BlueMatt[m]> I went through pretty carefully and see no reason for it under the ToS
<BlueMatt[m]> But even Block’s corporate contract with GitHub wasn’t enough to get a real answer.
<BlueMatt[m]> They’ve gone from responding quickly to support@github to giving no answer even to people who pay them 🤷‍♂️
<BlueMatt[m]> (And somehow the violations also apply to self-hosted CI, which most of our jobs are)
<nkaretnikov> I suggest you post on YC’s Hacker News. This usually generates enough publicity for someone to notice and respond.
<BlueMatt[m]> Anyway, rust-bitcoin had already started migrating to a self-hosted forgejo and we likely will use the same instance
<BlueMatt[m]> nkaretnikov: I don’t think there’s any reason to stick with GitHub at this point - they’ve gone down hill so fast over the past five years we kinda already wanted to move off.
<nkaretnikov> then there’s no problem :)
<BlueMatt[m]> If they can’t answer professionally without a PR crisis the idea that anyone should continue using them is absurd :)
<BlueMatt[m]> I raise it here because the comedy of errors is probably relevant to Bitcoin core deciding whether to continue using GitHub as its primary location as well.
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<BlueMatt[m]> Also given the level of gratuitous user bans is seems pretty bad to keep using GitHub now.
<BlueMatt[m]> We’ve seen a lot of people try to contribute and then get their account blocked and all their PRs get immediately disappeared with no way to access them.
<BlueMatt[m]> The ban is just the straw that made us spend the time to migrate, but with the bans we’ve seen I’m not really sure anyone should use GitHub anymore.
<BlueMatt[m]> Anyway, opened an issue to at least discuss it more formally. I know it’s come up a few times over the years and seems like now there’s a lot more reasons to do it, if yall are ever gonna do it.
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] victorandre957 opened pull request #35575: implement randomize ports (master...feat/implement-randomize-ports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35575
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] DrahtBot closed pull request #35575: . (master...feat/implement-randomize-ports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35575
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] l0rinc opened pull request #35576: test: raise `feature_reindex` RPC timeout (master...l0rinc/raise-reindex-mining-rpc-timeout) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35576
<pinheadmz> BlueMatt[m] one thing to consider is all the github links out there already, in Dockerfiles etc. so some kind of long term support is prob still needed
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ptrinh opened pull request #35577: coins: pack cache entry flags into list pointer (master...coins-pack-cache-entry-flags) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35577
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] stratospher opened pull request #35578: net: don’t self advertise tor exit node ip addresses in outbound connections (master...2026-05-self-adv-tor-exit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35578
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<willcl-ark> That is concerning. I have a radicle mirror of bitcoin core at https://radicle.fish.foo/ but I don't really see it as a viable alternative at this point in time... Have already been checking out sourcehut, which seems pretty awesome, but will add forgejo to that list too.
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<darosior> pinheadmz: i think any move should conserve the Github repo as a read-only mirror
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