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<bytes1474560>
My contribution to the BIP 54 debate: bip54.lol
<bytes1474560>
Since discussion is censored on the mailing list by a pedophile and on Delving by AJ Clowns, it's important to maintain an uncensored list of objections to the soft fork. This is not off-topic because Bitcoin Core maintainers plan to implement it in v32.0.
<bytes1474560>
It takes a few seconds to register a new nick on IRC with a throwaway email. So the bans don't work.
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<pinheadmz>
@bytes1474560 you contribution to the conversation would be much more welcome without the personal attacks
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<bitcoin-git>
[bitcoin] vicjuma opened pull request #35631: depends: check required host tools before Qt downloads (master...depends-check-gui-host-tools) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35631
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<pinheadmz>
darosior lets think about communication mistakes we made with the community during opreturn and apply it to bip54, since its becoming controversial
<pinheadmz>
my idea was to use bitcoin-core/meta discussions so bitcoin core members and software users can meet in the same place. its easier to use than IRC, delving, or the ML. its more mature than twitter, and it is porobalby a better place than the eventual pull request to have debates
<stickies-v>
is delving really harder to use than github discussions? i've not been a heavy user of either, but they both seem pretty easy to use to me?
<stickies-v>
but more importantly, bip54 is a protocol conversation, i don't think bitcoin-core/meta is the place for that?
<pinheadmz>
once the PR is open, it will get tweeted. and then thats where the discussion will happen
<darosior>
I don't think BIP 54 really is controversial at the moment, but if it is the right thing to do is to hold off and reconsider, not "better communication". I don't think a troll website from a mentally deranged person, and an AI slop X post from somebody who spends his time insulting this project's contributors (as well as a large part of the rest of
<darosior>
bitcoiners), counts as "controversy".
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<darosior>
The closest i've seen to that was Jeremy Rubin's emails to the list suggesting an alternative to the 64-bytes transactions invalidation. He does not seem to have swayed anybody, but it did cause me to hold off opening the PR for now, because we never know and there is no rush anyways.
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<Earnestly>
Luke wrote a lengthly article about concerns with nlocktime, but the rest were fine
<Earnestly>
I found the gist and saw your reply there too
<Earnestly>
(The asic stuff was quite odd but I assumed it might be some implication for performance, rather than the controller having access to height (slowpath?) - the state stuff is also odd, because they can already do this)
<darosior>
Yeah i had second hand embarrassment from reading the State stuff
<darosior>
It's correct that using the nLockTime to grind is a performance improvement (Luke pointed it out on the list before), but only for *controllers* (Luke was careful not to mention that part out loud), which are not a bottleneck.
<Earnestly>
I'm also pretty bad at detecting llm written stuff
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<bitcoin-git>
[bitcoin] polespinasa opened pull request #35633: wallet: avoid call bumpfeediscount with negative values (master...2026-07-01-setbumpfeediscount) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/35633
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<nkaretnikov>
pinheadmz: I don’t think it’s bitcoin core’s fault. there is a group of individuals who actively mislead users who are not technical.
<nkaretnikov>
there is anti-core propaganda on YouTube and nostr. So the best developers could do is to get on podcasts because nontechnical users are not on the mailing list or GitHub, they just watch YT or repost popular content on nostr or stacker news.
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