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<vasild> If a security vulnerability or privacy leak has been found by using publicly accessible AI models. Then is it reasonable to assume that a hacker will find it as well?
<sliv3r__> a hacker could easily find it as well
<vasild> That is my understanding as well.
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<sliv3r__> I tried not much ago to ask the same model using different sessions the same questions with different words about some codebase, and the answers were all really similar with the same finding. So I would say anyone using a similar prompt and the same model would get a response close to what you got
<vasild> Then, the ordinary user Jue will not be aware of it (he does not pursue AIs like "find me a bug in this piece of software").
<vasild> sliv3r__: right
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<yancy> This speculation seems silly. If a security vulnerability or privacy leak has been found by publicly accessible AI models, then it's resonalbe to assume anyone can find it to find security problems.
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<vasild> yancy: do you mean my comment that "the ordinary user will not be aware of it"?
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<instagibbs> whatever a frontier model can do can likely mean open models will do in 3 months or less. The prompt engineering side of things matters too, e.g. an expert in a subsystem may know the right things to ask that a more naive attacker doesn't
<eugenesiegel> it's not reasonable to assume that all bugs are just inherently reachable with somebody who doesn't know what they're doing. if the expert is the only one who knows some attack "primitive" that's not documented anywhere, then the normie using the frontier model won't find it, but the expert using the frontier model will.