< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/10a20bf7700e...12ed800ab870
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 90ab62c John Newbery: [docs] document scripted-diff
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 12ed800 Pieter Wuille: Merge #11390: [docs] document scripted-diff...
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa closed pull request #11390: [docs] document scripted-diff (master...document_scripted_diff) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11390
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #10884: Added fix for wrong PATH to build-windows.md (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/10884
< sdfgsdfg> andytoshi mryandao come on do the same thing here
< sdfgsdfg> remove everyone from channels
< sdfgsdfg> every time you hear the same thing
< sdfgsdfg> greg maxwell and you two are a disgrace
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #11369: doc: Document locks - increase LOCK(...) comment coverage from 2 % to 77 % (master...lock-comments) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11369
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #11394: Perform a weaker subtree check in Travis (master...201709_travis_subtree) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11394
< gmaxwell> sipa: I walked back through history and don't see any other fixes made against libsecp256k1 in the repo except the one you caught.
< sipa> gmaxwell: git-subtree-check will give you diff between the expected subtree contents and the actual one
< sipa> (that's how i found and constructed https://github.com/bitcoin-core/secp256k1/pull/478)
< sipa> so there are indeed no other changes
< gmaxwell> sipa: yes, but I was concerned that there had been past changes we blew away with a subtree merge, they wouldn't have shown up with that check.
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #11395: Qt: Enable searching by transaction id (master...gui_search_txid) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11395
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/12ed800ab870...a3b4c5943b31
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 204cc98 Shooter: fix link error...
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a3b4c59 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11392: Fix stale link in gitian-building.md...
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11392: Fix stale link in gitian-building.md (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11392
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #11397: net: Improve and document SOCKS code (master...2017_09_socks_refactor) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11397
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jl2012 opened pull request #11398: Hardcode CSV deployment (master...csvburied) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11398
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jl2012 opened pull request #11399: Fix bip68-sequence rpc test (master...bip68test-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11399
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a3b4c5943b31...2d858993035f
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fd8f45f João Barbosa: [test] Add restart_node to BitcoinTestFramework
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f6ffb14 João Barbosa: [test] Add getblockchaininfo functional test
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2d85899 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #11370: [test] Add getblockchaininfo functional test...
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11370: [test] Add getblockchaininfo functional test (master...2017-09-add-getblockchaininfo-functional-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11370
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #11335: Replace save|restoreWindowGeometry with Qt functions (master...201709_fix_offscreen_2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11335
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jl2012 opened pull request #11400: [wallet] Remove segwit status check (master...postsegwitwallet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11400
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #11401: doc: move gitian building to external repo (master...Mf1708-docGitianFedora) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11401
< analiser> hi ppl any use bitcoinlib with core version 0.15 ?
< analiser> python modules bitcoin & bitcoin.rpc going weird in new core versions
< sipa> what's weird about it
< analiser> any advise to handle bitcoin node in python will be appreciate
< analiser> bitcoin module no object has no attribute 'SelectParams'
< analiser> and bitcoin.rpc no att Proxy() anymore
< sipa> i think you're confused... those are things implemented in the python side
< analiser> yes
< sipa> it has nothing to do with bitcoin core
< analiser> just looking someone who use it
< sipa> sorry, this is the wrong place
< analiser> ok tk
< jcorgan> are there recommended alternatives to openssl for the libcrypto portion? mostly interested in AES, SHA2, HMAC, PBKDF2, no need for actual TLS
< jcorgan> C++
< luke-jr> thoughts on moving the historical release notes to a separate repo, and not including them in the tarballs?
< luke-jr> kinda just keeps making the tarballs bigger and bigger, for no real benefit
< maaku> Am I reading things correctly that SCRIPT_VERIFY_MINIMALDATA is not consensus enforced for CSV and CLTV?
< sipa> maaku: minimaldata is never a consensus rule
< maaku> hrm. then i apologize for that. there's no reason those should have used fRequireMinimal for decoding the locktime/sequence
< sipa> i agree... just always assuming true there would have been better - though i don't think it matters very much
< maaku> What's the largest and smallest CScriptNums that can be created by existing opcodes?
< maaku> sorry wrong channel
< gmaxwell> ::sigh:: yet another person on reddit spreading the idea that btc1 need only get more hashrate and we'll move over to developing it: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/72esf4/supporting_segwit2x_btc1_equals_abandoning_btc/dnhzawn/ Bluematt and I have responded saying nope. If a few more people did it would become something good to link to.
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #11402: [wallet] Use shared pointer for wallet instances (master...2017-09-wallet-shared-pointer) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/11402
< esotericnonsense> chucked in my 2c. tempted to go further, but i'll restrain myself.
< esotericnonsense> the whole 'developers will be forced to do x' attitude demonstrates a (wilful? strange, anyway) lack of understanding about how OSS development works
< gmaxwell> I think for the vast majority of bitcoin users -- bitcoin is the only open source thing they've ever looked at in any detail.
< esotericnonsense> heh, i have a comment on that but i've rewritten it a few times and eventually conclude with 'individuals freedom is higher than you might think'.
< esotericnonsense> on a basic level i'd probably go further and substitute 'open source thing' for 'software project'. similar arguments could be made for commercial stuff. there are things that an employer or client could ask me to do that would have me looking to move on as well, i don't think that's unusual and it seems obvious that it applies to most situations in which someone isn't in poverty.
< gmaxwell> esotericnonsense: one thing that I think might contribute to that is that software engineering is a pretty in demand skill, ... a lot of people are not so fortunate as to have skills that basically result in guarenteed employability.
< esotericnonsense> yes, that's why i ended up rewriting a few times and couldn't come up with an adequate message that conveyed the edge cases
< gmaxwell> I've seen that kind of thinking in some of the less trolly omg blockstream posts-- a kind of "sure it's all good now, but what if they tell you to do something evil later!"; as if employment is slavery or something, but to people who aren't fortunate, I suppose it can be.
< goatpig> one thing i that dumbfounds me in the blockstream conspiracy theories is how oblivious these people are of the ecosystem
< goatpig> there's a few layers between the chain and the end user
< goatpig> that's not happening out of thin air
< esotericnonsense> it's just a problem in society in general. the same attitudes are expressed when you see e.g. a 'high' salary for a skilled or difficult role.
< goatpig> there are people invested in developing those layers
< esotericnonsense> e.g. 'the police commissioner is paid too much, let's get someone else' and lose all of that knowledge. (just an arbitrary example, i don't know much about policing).
< esotericnonsense> (or alternately lower the pay, as if they can't just go off and do something else, or retire, or any number of options)
< esotericnonsense> basically yes, adversarial employment is a thing that warps views.
< goatpig> you can't talk of employement in half this ecosystem, most poeple in here just donate code outright to the project of their choice
< goatpig> one would assume their motivations transcends the "follow the leader" mentality
< promag> luke-jr: sorry for the nits