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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/7e75400bb568...dc9ffb6bc452
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d2a09c8 Pieter Wuille: doc: mention bech32m/BIP350 in doc/descriptors.md
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dc9ffb6 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22837: doc: mention bech32m/BIP350 in doc/descriptor...
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22837: doc: mention bech32m/BIP350 in doc/descriptors.md (master...202108_bip350descdoc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22837
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/dc9ffb6bc452...9a86327512b3
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9a86327 Samuel Dobson: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22512: Consolidate XOnlyPubKey lookup hack
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d9d3ec0 Andrew Chow: Consolidate XOnlyPubKey lookup hack
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider merged pull request #22512: Consolidate XOnlyPubKey lookup hack (master...xonly-lookup-hack) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22512
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9a86327512b3...9487b68f06b0
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 96cc6bb Carl Dong: guix/prelude: Override VERSION with FORCE_VERSION
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9487b68 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22847: guix/prelude: Override `VERSION` with `FORCE_...
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22847: guix/prelude: Override `VERSION` with `FORCE_VERSION` (master...2021-08-SDE-based-on-VERSION) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22847
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #22857: [22.x] Backports (22.x...more_22_x_backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22857
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<fanquake> meshcollider: nice to see you've fixed your clock heh
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9487b68f06b0...3af495d69723
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 76f031b fanquake: build: fix unoptimized libraries in depends
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3af495d fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22840: build: fix unoptimized libraries in depends
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22840: build: fix unoptimized libraries in depends (master...fix_depends_lib_optimisation) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22840
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #22858: [0.21] Potential rc3 backports (0.21...potential_0_21_rc3_backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22858
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3af495d69723...01fa1481f9d8
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 56a42f1 Pieter Wuille: Stricter BIP32 decoding and test vector 5
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 01fa148 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22836: Stricter BIP32 decoding and test vector 5
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22836: Stricter BIP32 decoding and test vector 5 (master...202108_bipvec5) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22836
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/01fa1481f9d8...43bf824ff235
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa18553 MarcoFalke: fuzz: Remove addrdb fuzz target
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 43bf824 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22853: fuzz: Remove addrdb fuzz target
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22853: fuzz: Remove addrdb fuzz target (master...2109-fuzzRemT) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22853
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #21478: guix: Use `pigz` as a faster `gzip` replacement (master...2021-03-guix-pigz-can-fly) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21478
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/43bf824ff235...77e77e8544c7
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5559cf1 Hennadii Stepanov: doc: Add packages that provide Qt Wayland plugin for Linux
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 77e77e8 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22631: doc: Add packages that provide Qt Wayland plu...
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22631: doc: Add packages that provide Qt Wayland plugin for Linux (master...210805-wayland) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22631
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<meshcollider> fanquake: I have to manually adjust it every time now hah
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<Bullit> 3KWmEuAXy8HauiZRhUJLVdn4eFKvoGCtap restore my balance
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #22859: Replace uses of boost::trim* with locale-independent alternatives (#18130 rebased) (master...18130_rebased) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22859
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #18130: Replace uses of boost::trim* with locale-independent alternatives (master...2020-02-boost-trim) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18130
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/77e77e8544c7...6bf706a0560d
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 97cea1a Antoine Poinsot: policy: unit test Segwit dust thresholds
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6bf706a MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22846: policy: unit test Segwit dust thresholds
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #22846: policy: unit test Segwit dust thresholds (master...unit_test_getdustthreshold) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22846
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #22860: test: Always clear reject reason in IsStandard tx test (master...2109-testRej) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22860
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6bf706a0560d...d6034e41226e
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ae4ad1a fanquake: msvc: update bitcoin_config.h defines
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d6034e4 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22843: msvc: update bitcoin_config.h defines
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22843: msvc: update bitcoin_config.h defines (master...update_msvc_bitcoin_configg) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22843
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<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ab9c342 fanquake: release: remove gitian
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 245462b MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22418: release: Remove gitian
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d6034e41226e...245462b66ce3
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #22418: release: Remove gitian (master...remove_gitian) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22418
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #22861: test: Update test README and lint script (master...2109-testDoc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22861
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/245462b66ce3...b997dd211ecf
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa2e9de MarcoFalke: test: Check that non-signaling BIP125 tx can be replaced via parent
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b997dd2 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22809: test: Check that non-signaling BIP125 tx can ...
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22809: test: Check that non-signaling BIP125 tx can be replaced via parent (master...2108-testTxReplace) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22809
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] darosior opened pull request #22863: policy: document dust threshold for Taproot outputs (master...dust_threshold_doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22863
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] darosior closed pull request #22779: policy: correct (lower) the dust threshold for Taproot outputs (master...taproot_dust_limit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22779
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<bitcoin-git> [gui] Sjors opened pull request #416: gui: add RPC setting (master...2021/09/rpc_setting) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/416
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<jonatack> On the topic of addr monitoring... #22501 has 5 ACKs (and 5 re-ACKs or so after updating it for addr_rate_limited, too) if anyone is in the mood to merge it in...been running it since mid-July
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22501 | netinfo: display addr_{processed, rate_limited, relay_enabled} and relaytxes data by jonatack · Pull Request #22501 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<jonatack> after updating it for *addr_relay_enabled
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<michaelfolkson> jonatack: Does seem ready to merge. Happy to test it and add another ACK if needed.
<michaelfolkson> What was the response to sipa's point? "I'm really not convinced these numbers are sufficiently important to turn into a new field, unless the expectation is that many more things will be added to it."
<michaelfolkson> Oh I think you ditched those numbers
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<laanwj> jonatack: looking at it
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<jonatack> michaelfolkson: i read that comment as referring to adding an additional developer-oriented details level, which i agree with, but since i'm close to it from always having a terminal buffer open with it, i'm used to all the detail and wasn't sure if it was becoming hard to grok :)
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<jonatack> laanwj: thanks!
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<jonatack> michaelfolkson: *i agree with (sipa's comment)
<michaelfolkson> jonatack: Cool. Always hard to gauge the granularity of fields that people would use/appreciate :)
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/b997dd211ecf...a70768d15964
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5eeea8e Jon Atack: Add addr_processed and addr_rate_limited stats to -netinfo
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0a9ee3a Jon Atack: Simplify a few conditionals in -netinfo
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3834e23 Jon Atack: Display peers in -netinfo that request we not relay transactions
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #22501: netinfo: display addr_{processed, rate_limited, relay_enabled} and relaytxes data (master...netinfo-addr-statistics) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22501
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a70768d15964...dd097c42df73
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ea98d9c Sebastian Falbesoner: rpc: fix/add missing RPCExamples for "Util" RPCs
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dd097c4 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#18448: rpc: fix/add missing RPCExamples for "Util" R...
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #18448: rpc: fix/add missing RPCExamples for "Util" RPCs (master...20200326-rpc-add-fix-rpcexamples-in-misc-category) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/18448
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<provoostenator> hebasto: the v22 release notes mention -natpmp, but they don'nt mention GUI support yet, which was also added
<hebasto> provoostenator: thanks, just double checking https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/22.0-Release-Notes-draft#gui right now
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<jonatack> laanwj: mentioning as i may be late for the meeting, #22702 is out of WIP; perhaps add to high-priority
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22702 | Add allocator for node based containers by martinus · Pull Request #22702 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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<laanwj> jonatack: added
<laanwj> #startmeeting
<core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 2 19:00:01 2021 UTC. The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
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<gene> hi
<kvaciral[m]> hi
<hebasto> hi
<laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos
<laanwj> nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
<achow101> hi
<meshcollider> hi
<michaelfolkson> hi
<cfields> hi
<dongcarl> hi
<luke-jr> hi
<laanwj> there have been no topics proposed using #proposedmeetingtopic this week
<laanwj> any last minute ones people would like to discuss?
<larryruane> hi
<laanwj> how are we with 22.0? looks like rc3 is holding up quite well
<laanwj> or have people encountered regressions/bugs?
<kanzure> hi
<laanwj> or anything else that will make a rc4 necessary
<achow101> doesn't seem like it
<sipa> i haven't seen anything
<laanwj> fantastic
<laanwj> so maybe we can tag final this/next week, let's see
<laanwj> #topic High priority for review
<core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
<laanwj> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8 currently 7 blockers, 2 chasing concept ACK
<achow101> #17526 for me
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17526 | Use Single Random Draw In addition to knapsack as coin selection fallback by achow101 · Pull Request #17526 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<laanwj> achow101: added
<laanwj> anything else to add/remove or that is (almost) ready for merge?
<glozow> could i get #22675 please?
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22675 | RBF move 2/3: extract RBF logic into policy/rbf by glozow · Pull Request #22675 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<michaelfolkson> What's the latest on the build work for Minisketch? #21859
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21859 | Add minisketch subtree and integrate in build/test by sipa · Pull Request #21859 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<laanwj> glozow: added!
<sipa> once https://github.com/sipa/minisketch/pull/45 is in (and possible other cleanups), i'll update 21859 to follow the approach suggested by cfields and fanquake
<michaelfolkson> sipa: Cool
<laanwj> another urgent request for review (if we're going to tag final soonish) would be the 22.0 draft release notes: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/22.0-Release-Notes-draft
<sipa> laanwj: +1
<hebasto> ^^ working on it
<laanwj> any other PRs? or other topics?
<laanwj> hebasto: thanks
<laanwj> that was a short meeting again, thanks everyone for attending
<laanwj> #endmeeting
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<gene> been thinking about adding support for cbor RPC, should that idea be floated on the mailing list before starting work?
<hebasto> provoostenator: 22.0 draft release notes about added nat-pmp support matches a191e23b8e7f0e19fc0359825eb7ca0d47966fa9 commit
<hebasto> not sure how to mention it in the GUI section nicely
<sipa> gene: i'd suggest opening an issue, where you describe the advantages, what kind of changes would be required, etc...
<sipa> the ML would be inappropriate I think, as it's not a protocol issue
<gene> sipa: thanks, will work on a write-up, and open an issue
<laanwj> yes, it's not a ML issue, the RPC is specific to the bitcoin core implementation
<gene> laanwj: that makes sense, just wasn't sure since it would have implications for clients interacting with the core implementation
<laanwj> i personally don't see much chance that JSON will be replaced
<gene> right, not a replacement, an addition
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<gene> basically mirroring current RPC on another port that accepts CBOR instead of JSON
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<gene> mainly thinking of it as an advantage for mobile clients, and anyone developing IoT clients
<cfields> why not just put a proxy translator in the middle?
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<gene> cfields: thought about doing that, too. writing a small rust program that takes in CBOR, translates to JSON, then passes to current RPC
<gene> will make sure to include that as an alternative in the issue write-up
<gene> the proxy has a number of advantages, like not adding more code (and thus attack surface, maintenance cost) to bitcoin core
<gene> disadvantages would be users would need to install an additional program along with bitcoin core
<gene> plus the translation overhead, rather than calling into the RPC backend directly from deserialized CBOR
<glozow> laanwj: thank you for adding!
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<laanwj> gene: what i think you need to specfically elaborate on is that, in the hypothetical case we'd add another interface in parallel to JSON, why CBOR specifically? why is it suited to software like this. e.g. it seems JSON is very well supported in mobile, almost everything uses some javascript kind of thing nowadays.
<gene> laanwj: ok, will make sure to cover those topics. briefly, CBOR has an RFC, and is becoming the de-facto protocol for data constrained devices. because of the smaller data footprint, it would save mobile/IoT users money on their data plans
<laanwj> also if it's meant for communication with *remote* clients, it must be tunneled over something else already, so the extra overhead of a proxy isn't that much i'd expect
<cfields> I dunno about cbor, but json can be deserialized from a stream in realtime. Assuming cbor has the same property, you could potentially multiplex the decode/encode for minimal latency.
<gene> right, the overhead saving would mostly be for remote clients
<laanwj> compressing JSON already helps a lot btw
<sipa> it appears CBOR actually has native support for 64-bit integers
<laanwj> before you do a lot of work-i fell into that trap once, coming up with some specific binary format for something, compressed JSON actually did slightly better :-)
<sipa> while JSON only has a rather abstractly defined "number" type
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<gene> laanwj: absolutely, that's why I wanted to float the idea before diving in too much deeper
<cfields> sipa: I've been struggling with this lately. Playing around with rewriting UniValue as a std::variant. The JSON number/string constraints are annoyingly vague.
<gene> sipa: CBOR also encodes binary data without the need for Base64 encoding, so passing around public keys and other binary data would be much more compact
<laanwj> sipa: that's a good thing at least, no longer the 'how do we represent monetary amounts' question
<cfields> s/vague/non-existent/, I guess.
<laanwj> that said, everything is adapted to how bitcoin core does things now
<laanwj> it was slightly different in 2012
<sipa> gene: yes, i assumed that'd be the main objective
<laanwj> compressing base64 gets pretty close to the original binary size
<jonatack> laanwj: thanks for adding the node allocator pull to hi-prio. WRT the release notes, the addr rate-limiting and some PRs seem to be missing, will re-check tomorrow morning. In terms of v22.0, there's a (maybe...or maybe not important) edge case I plan to check out tomorrow.
<gene> laanwj: can do a small implementation of a few RPC calls (trying to get a representative sample), and compare sizes between compressed CBOR and JSON encodings
<laanwj> gene: okay!
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] martinus closed pull request #22702: Add allocator for node based containers (master...2019-08-bulkpoolallocator) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22702
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] martinus reopened pull request #22702: Add allocator for node based containers (master...2019-08-bulkpoolallocator) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22702
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mjdietzx opened pull request #22867: Extend test coverage of BIP125 and document confusing/inconsistent behavior (master...test_bip125_edge_cases) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22867
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] promag opened pull request #22868: wallet: Call load handlers without cs_wallet locked (master...2021-09-wallet-load-lock) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22868
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<bitcoin-git> [gui] promag opened pull request #417: Ditch wallet model juggling (master...2021-09-eager-wallet-load-1) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/417
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<fanquake> laanwj: #22857 - although as I mention in the description, shouldn’t require an rc4
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22857 | [22.x] Backports by fanquake · Pull Request #22857 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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