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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/dda2613239b0...cfb59da4b3bb
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a7498cc marcofleon: Fix bug in p2p_headers_presync harness
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cfb59da glozow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#30980: fuzz: fix bug in p2p_headers_presync harness
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow merged pull request #30980: fuzz: fix bug in p2p_headers_presync harness (master...2024/09/headers-presync-fuzz-bugfix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30980
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #31023: Add -pausebackgroundsync startup option (master...2024/10/pause-background-sync) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31023
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] AgusR7 opened pull request #31025: mempool_accept.py changes (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31025
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #31026: ci: set a ctest test timeout of 1200 (20 minutes) (master...ctest_actually_set_timeout) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31026
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] RandyMcMillan closed pull request #30993: doc/build-osx.md:brew relinking note (master...2001/863168/294116/d812cf1189/1e0e06f98d) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30993
<Sjors[m]> It appears some projects are experiencing issues with #27101 even though they shouldn't.
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27101 | Support JSON-RPC 2.0 when requested by client by pinheadmz · Pull Request #27101 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<pinheadmz> ruh roh
<Sjors[m]> In this case it seems to be that we insist the version is a string?
<Sjors[m]> Which might be a breaking change.
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<Sjors[m]> Might want to hold off on announcing v28.0 until that's more clear.
<pinheadmz> i dont think their original code `jsonrpc: 1.0` would ever have been valid.
<pinheadmz> before 2.0 the key was "version" anyway
<Sjors[m]> pinheadmz: maybe invalid, but ignored? And now it triggers an error?
<pinheadmz> yeah ignored before, type-checked now
<pinheadmz> what do you recco? remove the type check before release?
<Sjors[m]> I think the spirit of 27101 was to not change behavior for < 2.0 JSON. So maybe indeed skip the type check.
<Sjors[m]> Though maybe run it in case you see 2.0 in stead of "2.0".
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<andytoshi> i would suggest treating the string "2.0" as meaning 2.0, and literally anything else (including the number 2) as 1.0
<fanquake> I think I'm missing something. Their code was always incorrect right? jsonrpc is a 2.0 only, thing, and always needs to be a string (per the spec)
<andytoshi> maybe you could log a warning if you see the number 2, to be nice
<Sjors[m]> Right, at least do a warning otherwise I think confusion is guaranteed.
<fanquake> So why would we relax our requirements to handle someone incorrectly trying to do 2.0 ?
<fanquake> Or is that not what's happening here
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<Sjors[m]> fanquake: no there are 1.0 clients
<Sjors[m]> * these
<pinheadmz> a 1.0 client SHOULD include "version": "1.0"
<fanquake> yes but jsonrpc doesn't exist in 1.0 right?
<pinheadmz> fanquake correct AFAICT
<fanquake> so how can a 1.0 client be sending json rpc with a 2.0 int
<fanquake> *jsonrpc
<andytoshi> fanquake: they're sending a 1.0 int
<fanquake> right, so they are just sending something not even in the spec
<andytoshi> correct
<Sjors[m]> Been open for a month, but it seems nobody pinged us.
<fanquake> Regardless of what we decide to do here. v28.0 has already been tagged, just not annouced. So if further changes want to be made, it'll be in a 28.0.1 or similar.
<Sjors[m]> Actually the Lnd issue might be a different one.
<pinheadmz> i think it is, fork observer hit that as well
<andytoshi> i think the current behavior is totally reasonable. but if we were having this conversation a month ago i'd have a mild preference for just allowing random crap like this in 1.0
<andytoshi> (btw i checked my own jsonrpc impl, and i have been using the string "2.0" for years)
<sipa> andytoshi: i agree
<sipa> the fact that apparently some clients are in violation of the spec doesn't change the fact that this change made by us breaks things for them
<sipa> but indeed, 28.0 is already out; depending on how hard it is for these few projects to adapt, i could see us doing a 28.0.1
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<pinheadmz> damn sorry folks
<sipa> pinheadmz: not your fault
<pinheadmz> i blame jsonrpc
<pinheadmz> they changed "version" to "jsonrpc"
<pinheadmz> instead of just bumping the version number - who does that
<Sjors[m]> Javascript people :-)
<pinheadmz> ha!
<pinheadmz> jsonrpc: 1.00000000000003
<sipa> hahahaha
<jonatack> Sjors[m]: :D
<jonatack> (agree with andytoshi and sipa)
<Sjors[m]> I think rpc-bitcoin can fix things very quickly. But it's an NPM package, so who knows how much stuff out there uses an old version.
<Sjors[m]> Oh, by "very quickly" I mean there's a PR with enough review, but their last release is from 2020.
<achow101> we can do a 28.1 if this is a problem that majorly affects people
<achow101> but I don't think there should be anything for us to do other than to keep an eye out for complaints
<jonatack> the zen of release management
<Sjors[m]> This library has been setting jsonrpc: 1.0 for more than 5 years. And it's being downloaded 1000+ times a week according NPM. My guess is this will break a lot of htings.
<achow101> #startmeeting
<achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard aureleoules b10c BlueMatt brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge dongcarl fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jonatack josibake kallewoof kanzure kouloumos kvaciral laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr MacroFake Murch phantomcircuit pinheadmz promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sr_gi theStack TheCharlatan vasild
<Sjors[m]> hi
<josie> hiya
<hebasto> hi
<sipa> o meeting time, hi
<achow101> There are no pre-proposed meeting topics this week. Any last minute ones to add?
<b10c> hi
<stickies-v> hi
<jonatack> hi
<glozow> hi
<emzy> hi
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<kanzure> hi
<Sjors[m]> RPC gate topic?
<achow101> #topic Ad-hoc high priority for review
<achow101> Anything to add or remove from https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/1/views/4
<pinheadmz> Hi and
<achow101> Also 28.0 was tagged, please guix build
<pinheadmz> Shana tova
<sipa> guix build fails for me, something apparmor
<dergoegge> hi
<lightlike> Hi
<fjahr> hi
<achow101> #topic rpc (Sjors)
<Sjors[m]> (I think I did something very slighlyt different than the gist, but forgot, see that comment)
<sipa> i shall try
<Sjors[m]> From right before the meeting, we noticed that the bitcoin-rpc NPM package is broken: https://github.com/vansergen/rpc-bitcoin/pull/65
<abubakarsadiq> hi
<Sjors[m]> As an unintende side-effect of #27101
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27101 | Support JSON-RPC 2.0 when requested by client by pinheadmz · Pull Request #27101 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<sipa> and apparently there are also issues due to the warnings field now being an array?
<Sjors[m]> The idea was the be strict about JSON RPC 2.0, but remain loose for earlier stuff.
<Sjors[m]> sipa: possibly, maybe that should also be 2.0 - only behavior?
<achow101> Since 28.0 is already tagged, any changes to these would be in a 28.1
<Sjors[m]> But the binaries are not release yet, so it could be 28.0.1 release.
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<b10c> the warnings string -> array change was in #29845
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/29845 | rpc: return warnings as an array instead of just a single one by stickies-v · Pull Request #29845 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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<achow101> Sjors[m]: x.0.1 releases have typically done for build issues and without release candidates. Fixing this problem seems like it might be involved enough to want to do at least one rc
<Sjors[m]> There's probably a limit to how much effort we should put into remaining backwards compatible with very old RPC clients, but these one or two things seem reasonable to fix imo.
<Sjors[m]> True, we could also ship 28.0 and warn people to be very careful about upgrading if they're using the RPC.
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<achow101> the warnings string to array was done with a deprecation cycle
<Sjors[m]> Ok, in that case I think only the 1.0 thing should be fixed.
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<sipa> it also means fewer things are affected?
<sipa> i guess we should proceed with releasing 28.0 normally, perhaps with a warning in the release notes about this issue, and then see if we get many reports
<achow101> We can add more to the release notes about the jsonrpc 2.0 issue
<Sjors[m]> So deprecatedrpc for the warning thing is now removed?
<achow101> actually, the warnings string to array is currently in the deprecation cycle. it's not gone yet.
<Chris_Stewart_5> hi
<jonatack> In current master I still see deprecatedrpc=warnings
<stickies-v> (the warnings string -> array change and -deprecatedrpc=warnings option is documented in the 28.0 release notes, btw)
<b10c> -deprecatedrpc=warnings should give the old behavior
<jonatack> so users have the option
<Sjors[m]> I'm trying to find out if people who run into the 1.0 issue also rely on -deprecatedrpc=warnings.
<achow101> we've followed our typical process for breaking rpc for that, so I think it's fine to leave alone
<sipa> agree
<Sjors[m]> Because they'll have to deal with both at some point in the near future.
<jonatack> Yes. It may be
<jonatack> good to give it a couple releases before removing, no hurry
<sipa> we could highlight it more in the release notes, perhaps a section in the very beginning mentioning both the jsonrpc version and warning field thing
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<stickies-v> the warnings change is also documented in the rpc docs already, so that + existing docs in release notes probably feels like enough documentation to me? but of course no objection to mentioning it at the beginning of the release notes too
<achow101> sipa: ack
<stickies-v> the jsonrpc thing is probably a bit more obscure for users to figure out so i think highlighting that more seems sensible
<achow101> The release notes draft can still be edited: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/28.0-Release-Notes-Draft
<achow101> i'll pull in any further changes to the announce pr after the binaries are uploaded (waiting for more guix builds though)
<achow101> and open a pr to update the in repo notes
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<achow101> Any other topics to discuss?
<jonatack> achow101: wiki edits to the release notes during the day today worth making then?
<achow101> jonatack: yes
<Chris_Stewart_5> can someone merge #30982 ? we discussed last week and i've edited teh release notes to add the instructions in the PR
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30982 | docs: Add instructions on how to self-sign bitcoin-core binaries for macOS by Christewart · Pull Request #30982 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<jonatack> also, i had these URLs pinned for the blockers:
<jonatack> iiuc the current URL is now
<jonatack> ?
<achow101> Chris_Stewart_5: will look
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<Chris_Stewart_5> :+1:
<achow101> jonatack: first and third links are the same project, just different views. see the tabs at the top
<achow101> I think the other project board (url 2) is not being used
<jonatack> achow101: ty
<achow101> #endmeeting
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<achow101> Chris_Stewart_5: need to get people to ack it, not just concept ack it
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<sipa> Sjors[m]: can you share your /etc/apparmor.d/guix file?
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #31025: mempool_accept.py changes (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31025
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<sipa> Sjors[m]: so i did two things, i added both the ...-guix-command and /usr/bin/guix to the apparmor.d/guix file, and fixed a bug in my aa-enforce (which is what caused that error you're seeing up running aa-enforce)
<sipa> and now it works
<sipa> but i'm not sure which of the two did it
<sipa> but just putting ...-guix-command there was not enough
<Sjors[m]> I'm just as mystified. Plus I always forget what I did a few months after.
<Sjors[m]> I generally google some error, find my own issue.
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<sipa> ok, the bug in aa-enforce is already fixed upstream: https://gitlab.com/apparmor/apparmor/-/merge_requests/1218
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<lightlike> could someone ban Theghost256 ? they're approving PRs in bulk, creating notification spam
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<fanquake> should be blocked now
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cfb59da4b3bb...772928a13c2d
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 27709f5 Chris Stewart: docs: Add instructions on how to self-sign bitcoin-core binaries for macOS
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 772928a Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#30982: docs: Add instructions on how to self-sign bi...
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #30982: docs: Add instructions on how to self-sign bitcoin-core binaries for macOS (master...2024-09-26-selfsign-mac-instructions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30982
<achow101_> Updated the release notes draft to mention the rpc compatibility issue
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] marcofleon opened pull request #31028: fuzz: Add fuzz-only build mode option for targets (master...2024/10/fuzzonly-build-mode-option) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31028
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<laanwj> sipa: what error are you getting from apparmor? (dmesg will usually have more detailed info on what action was denied)
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/772928a13c2d...f117f3f74738
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9123a28 Hennadii Stepanov: qt6: Handle deprecated `QLocale::nativeCountryName`
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f117f3f Hennadii Stepanov: Merge bitcoin-core/gui#838: qt6: Handle deprecated `QLocale::nativeCountry...
<bitcoin-git> [gui] hebasto merged pull request #838: qt6: Handle deprecated `QLocale::nativeCountryName` (master...240929-qt6-locale) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/838
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<laanwj> i wonder if i forgot something in https://gist.github.com/laanwj/cddb2ec7d18e71066d21e5ee993fe971 , it worked for me (it allows guix to create a user namespace and otherwise keeps it unconfined) but i've heard from more people it didn't for them
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<sipa> laanwj: is it normal that upon running aa-enforce, the "flags=(unconfirmed)" disappears?
<laanwj> sipa: flags=(unconfined), you mean? and no, it shouldn't disappear IIRC, it's important that it is unconfined... how are you checking this? also: which guix are you using, is the main binary installed in /usr/bin/guix ? the absolute path needs to be correct
<sipa> ehh, now i get
<sipa> substitute: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/guix/guile: error while loading shared libraries: libguile-3.0.so.1: cannot open shared object file: Permission denied
<sipa> guix time-machine: error: `/usr/bin/guix substitute' died unexpectedly
<sipa> laanwj: guix is installed from ubuntu repository, Ubuntu 24.04.1 LTS, version 1.4.0-6build1
<sipa> i did "guix pull" first
<laanwj> ok yes that's where the guix package installs it, same one i'm using
<sipa> there is /usr/bin/guix, but also my user has a ~/.config/guix/current/bin/guix (which is what "which guix" reports)
<sipa> which is a symlink to /home/pw/.config/guix/current/bin/guix
<sipa> aa-enforce [name], apparently really works on $(which [name])
<laanwj> looking at.the naming convention of the other guix.files, maybe /etc/apparmor.d/guix needs to be called /etc/apparmor.d/usr.bin.guix. ... though i don't remember doing this
<sipa> i don't believe this matters
<laanwj> i don't know if it's possible to make it affect the one in your homedir too
<laanwj> maybe just a matter. of specifying the full path though
<sipa> so, i created an apparmor.d/guix file, with binary name /gnu/store/c9a2snygcp9iywbncwky5jcjp29x3hsw-guix-command
<sipa> i ran /etc/init.d/apparmor reload
<sipa> and then ran "aa-enforce /gnu/store/c9a2snygcp9iywbncwky5jcjp29x3hsw-guix-command"
<sipa> this reports: Profile for /gnu/store/c9a2snygcp9iywbncwky5jcjp29x3hsw-guix-command not found, skipping
<sipa> after which, the apparmor.d/guix file has changed; the binary name is now /home/pw/.config/guix/current/bin/guix (despite me running aa-enforce as root, not even in sudo), and the "flags=(unconfined)" is gone
<laanwj> strange
<laanwj> wait, it edits the file in /etc?!?
<laanwj> i'm really confused now, i must say i haven't tried this in a while on ubuntu
<sipa> yes, it edits the /etc/apparmor.d/guix file
<laanwj> i didn't know aa-enforce changed the configuration, i thought it just enabled the profile in the kernel
<sipa> laanwj: i'm starting to suspect that aa-enforce actually *only* changes the config file, and then tell apparmor to reload it
<sipa> (evidence being that aa-enforce failed for Sjors[m], but guix building still succeeded)
<sipa> ok, made an /etc/apparmor.d/guix file with "profile guix /gnu/store/c9a2snygcp9iywbncwky5jcjp29x3hsw-guix-command flags=(unconfined)", did /etc/init.d/apparmor reload, and guix-build works now...
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