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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] yuvicc opened pull request #33959: test: use ForkGenerator to deduplicate reorg test code (#32587 follow-up) (master...2025-11-followup_fix_reorgs_tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33959
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #33955: leveldb: correct trailer boundary check in Reader::SkipToInitialBlock (master...fix/log-reader-trailer-boundary) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33955
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #33926: Align legacy script policy with P2SH policy in AreInputsStandard (master...align-legacy-p2sh-policy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33926
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/85d058dc537e...4b25b274de66
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 52230a7 Sebastian Falbesoner: test: check for output to stdout in `TestShell` test
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4b25b27 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33951: test: check for output to stdout in `TestShel...
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #33951: test: check for output to stdout in `TestShell` test (master...202511-test-TestShell-check-stdout) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33951
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4b25b274de66...38c8474d0d77
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c0bfe72 Sjors Provoost: Change Parse descriptor argument to string_view
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 38c8474 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33914: Change Parse descriptor argument to string_vi...
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #33914: Change Parse descriptor argument to string_view (master...2025/11/parse-string) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33914
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #33960: log: Use more severe log level (warn/err) where appropriate (master...2511-log) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33960
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/38c8474d0d77...4de26b111f4d
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e07e573 will: ci: clear out space on centos job
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4de26b1 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33514: ci: clear out space on CentOS, depends, gui G...
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #33514: ci: clear out space on CentOS, depends, gui GHA job (master...centos-space-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33514
<bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] maflcko opened pull request #245: ci: Clear bloated GHA VM (main...main) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/pull/245
<bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] maflcko merged pull request #244: initial fuzz corpus for difference_formatter (main...difference-formatter-corpus) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/pull/244
<bitcoin-git> [qa-assets] maflcko pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/qa-assets/compare/c7f2cb8268a8...5a590d43c468
<bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main 454a3e2 frankomosh: add corpus for difference_formatter target
<bitcoin-git> qa-assets/main 5a590d4 maflcko: Merge pull request #244 from frankomosh/difference-formatter-corpus
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/4de26b111f4d...808f1d972be3
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a33d034 fanquake: contrib: more selectively pick files for macOS SDK
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c1213a3 fanquake: macdeploy: disable compression in macOS gen-sdk script
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3e01b5d fanquake: contrib: rename gen-sdk to gen-sdk.py
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32009: contrib: turn off compression of macOS SDK to fix determinism (across distros) (master...macos_sdk_select) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32009
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] billymcbip opened pull request #33961: Add a separate ScriptError for empty pubkeys encountered in Tapscript (master...pubkey-error) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33961
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<stickies-v> #startmeeting
<corebot> stickies-v: Meeting started at 2025-11-27T16:00+0000
<corebot> stickies-v: Current chairs: stickies-v
<corebot> stickies-v: Useful commands: #action #info #idea #link #topic #motion #vote #close #endmeeting
<corebot> stickies-v: See also: https://hcoop-meetbot.readthedocs.io/en/stable/
<corebot> stickies-v: Participants should now identify themselves with '#here' or with an alias like '#here FirstLast'
<l0rinc> hi
<sedited> hi
<stickies-v> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: abubakarsadiq achow101 _aj_ ajonas b10c brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge dzxzg eugenesiegel fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto hodlinator instagibbs janb84 jarolrod jonatack josibake kanzure kevkevin laanwj LarryRuane lightlike l0rinc luke-jr maflcko marcofleon maxedw Murch pinheadmz provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sr_gi tdb3 theStack TheCharlatan vasild
<stickies-v> willcl-ark
<willcl-ark> hi
<andrewtoth_> hi
<janb84> hi
<yuvicc> hi
<lightlike> hi
<jonatack> hi
<stringintech> hi
<enochazariah> hi
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<Sjors[m]1> hi
<stickies-v> There are no pre-proposed meeting topics this week. Any last minute ones to add?
<fjahr> hi
<stickies-v> alright, let's go!
<dergoegge> hi
<stickies-v> #topic Fuzzing WG Update (dergoegge)
<dergoegge> no update
<stickies-v> #topic Kernel WG Update (TheCharlatan)
<sedited> who's TheCharlatan? :D
<sedited> Open PRs for your consideration on the project board: https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/3
<sedited> Some good progress reported over the past week with standardizing tests across language bindings.
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<sedited> that's all :)
<stickies-v> the test project can be found at https://github.com/stringintech/kernel-bindings-tests fyi
<sedited> ty
<hodlinator> hi
<stickies-v> #topic Benchmarking WG Update (l0rinc, andrewtoth)
<l0rinc> andrewtoth_ changed the underlying design of #31132.
<corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31132 | validation: fetch block inputs on parallel threads >20% faster IBD by andrewtoth · Pull Request #31132 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<l0rinc> The tx input cache-warming PR evolved from an `InputFetcher` helper (where the parallelism happened before `ConnectBlock` was called) to `CoinsViewCacheAsync`, a multithreaded `CCoinsViewCache` subclass whose worker threads run in parallel with `ConnectBlock` itself.
<l0rinc> For now the async view uses a fixed worker thread count of 4. The workload is primarily I/O-bound on DB latency rather than CPU-bound, so 4 workers already hide most of the latency and it simplifies the implementation. If needed we can make this configurable or tie it to `-par` later.
<l0rinc> This way the I/O-bound work runs in parallel with the CPU-bound validation work, and the preliminary results are very encouraging: on a Raspberry Pi 5 the best `-reindex-chainstate` so far is about 7.3 hours with `-dbcache=4500` and about 7.7 hours with the default 450 MB, roughly 36% and 46% faster than the current single-threaded baseline.
<l0rinc> The new implementation has been fuzzed for several days - it would be good to get some more eyes on it.
<l0rinc> For broader context, this should also play well with other orthogonal changes we're working on, such as #30442, #33602, and #32497, and a few ideas that don't have PRs yet, for example:
<corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30442 | precalculate SipHash constant salt XORs by l0rinc · Pull Request #30442 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33602 | [IBD] coins: reduce lookups in dbcache layer propagation by l0rinc · Pull Request #33602 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/32497 | merkle: pre‑reserve leaves to prevent reallocs with odd vtx count by l0rinc · Pull Request #32497 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<l0rinc> * a simpler `SipHash` variant we could use in the UTXO cache, exploiting the fact that the key is already a hash;
<l0rinc> * a follow-up to #28280 that would reduce the doubly linked list to a singly linked one: we'd do the compaction (non-dirty fresh-spend removals) before `BatchWrite` in amortized constant time, likely allowing ~10% more elements in the cache;
<corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28280 | Don't empty dbcache on prune flushes: >30% faster IBD by andrewtoth · Pull Request #28280 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<l0rinc> * undoing the `noexcept` optimization from #16957, which doesn't seem to help anymore and would likely speed up IBD by another ~2–4%;
<corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16957 | 9% less memory: make SaltedOutpointHasher noexcept by martinus · Pull Request #16957 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<l0rinc> * skipping all `ReallocateCache` calls during IBD.
<l0rinc> That's it, keep the reviews coming :)
<jonatack> nice work
<stickies-v> that looks like solid progress, thanks for the comprehensive overview l0rinc!
<sipa> hi
<sdaftuar> hi
<stickies-v> looks like Novo isn't on IRC atm, so skipping Silent Payments this week
<stickies-v> #topic Cluster Mempool WG Update (sdaftuar, sipa)
<sipa> sdaftuar: ?
<sdaftuar> cluster mempool was merged! thanks all. there's a followups PR I'm working on with various doc and code cleanups, and we'll want to get sipa's SFL PR merged before the next release
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<sr_gi[m]> hi
<sedited> \o/
<l0rinc> congrats!
<sdaftuar> sipa: anything else?
<stickies-v> big news on the merge, congrats everyone who contributed!
<sipa> the PRs being #33591 and #32545
<corebot> sipa: Error: That URL raised <Connection timed out.>
<corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/32545 | Replace cluster linearization algorithm with SFL by sipa · Pull Request #32545 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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<sipa> i said, #33591
<corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33591 | Cluster mempool followups by sdaftuar · Pull Request #33591 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<sdaftuar> it'd be helpful to get a lot of eyes on docs, rpc output, etc to get things as polished as possible before release
<sipa> i think it's worth mentioning that this is probably the time to start thinking/bikeshedding over things like documentation changes and RPCs etc
<sipa> jinx
<sdaftuar> i think that's it
<sipa> i'm happy we got it this early in a release cycle
<stickies-v> great, thank you, good to see some additional documentation in #33591 !
<corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33591 | Cluster mempool followups by sdaftuar · Pull Request #33591 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<stickies-v> #topic Stratum v2 WG Update (sjors)
<Sjors[m]1> I'm currently working on a refactor of block creation startup argument parsing and the various structs involved. PR soon(tm)
<Sjors[m]1> I'm running #33922 on a well connected node for a while to see how the mempool weather impacts the block template memory footprint.
<corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33922 | mining: add getMemoryLoad() and track template non-mempool memory footprint by Sjors · Pull Request #33922 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<Sjors[m]1> That's for transactions outside the mempool that we still hold on to. See chart in that PR for an early result, which the footprint was tiny.
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ANtutov opened pull request #33962: refactor: replace manual promise with SyncWithValidationInterfaceQueue (master...refactor/broadcast-tx-sync-without-promise) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33962
<Sjors[m]1> My guess is that under normal circumstances miners can aggressively request updated templates and it's not going to cause issues. We do need a way to handle irregular circumstances, probably just FIFO deleting templates.
<Sjors[m]1> Meanwhile the SRI folks (mainly Plebhash) are working on their rust client.
<stickies-v> thanks Sjors[m]1 - anything else to add?
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<Sjors[m]1> No that's enough for this week.
<jonatack> could add Sjors[m]1 to the meeting roster
<Sjors[m]1> jonatack: I'm there under my IRC name provoostenator
<jonatack> ah! nvm
<Sjors[m]1> I use a different account for the Matrix bridge, but i'll get notifications either way.
<stickies-v> #topic Net Split WG Update (cfields)
<stickies-v> cory is away this week, but he asked to relay this message:
<stickies-v> "See new meta-issue #33958. Finally getting going. Next week I intend to work on moving necessary CNode state to Peer. Specifically, the lowest hanging fruit"
<corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33958 | Net split meta issue · Issue #33958 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<stickies-v> it's quite a comprehensive write-up so recommend checking it out if you're interested!
<stickies-v> Anything else to discuss?
<stickies-v> #endmeeting
<corebot> stickies-v: Meeting ended at 2025-11-27T16:18+0000
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] l0rinc opened pull request #33963: test: tighten `V2TransportTester::SendMessage` bounds for GCC 15.2 (master...l0rinc/SendMessage-gcc15) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33963
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] l0rinc closed pull request #33963: test: tighten `V2TransportTester::SendMessage` bounds for GCC 15.2 (master...l0rinc/SendMessage-gcc15) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33963
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