< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #17034: Bip174 extensions (master...bip174-extensions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17034
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] emilengler opened pull request #17035: qt: Fix text display when state of prune button is changed (master...2019-10-qt-intro-prune-text-update-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17035
< warren> If anyone with sysadmin + mbox file experience wants to help with the new development mailing list archives please msg PM me. We have a temporary channel to discuss the plan and options.
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jtimon opened pull request #17037: Test: Many regtests with different genesis and default datadir (master...b20-n-chains) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17037
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj opened pull request #17038: Don't call ThreadRename for the main thread (master...2019_10_no_main_thread_rename) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17038
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #16995: Fix gcc 9 warnings (master...2019_09_resolve_gcc_warnings) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16995
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] matszpk opened pull request #17039: Small fix typo in polish translations in Qt client. (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17039
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonasschnelli closed pull request #17039: Small fix typo in polish translations in Qt client. (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17039
< instagibbs> wumpus, 16507 has 5 fresh ACKs, I think now's a good time to merge to give it the most time on master in case god forbid new bug
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #15262: build: Enable C++14 in build, require C++14 compiler. (master...c++14) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/15262
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #17040: ci: Make apt-get more verbose, to debug travis timeouts (master...1909-ciAptTimeout) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17040
< emilengler> Where is the snapcraft.yaml?
< emilengler> A 'tree | grep snapcraft' returns no matches
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #17040: ci: Make apt-get more verbose, to debug travis timeouts (master...1909-ciAptTimeout) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17040
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #16507: feefilter: Compute the absolute fee rather than stored rate (master...feefilter_match_mempool) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16507
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke reopened pull request #16507: feefilter: Compute the absolute fee rather than stored rate (master...feefilter_match_mempool) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16507
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #17041: ci: Run tests on arm (master...1909-ciFunArm) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17041
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/284cd3195a9e...47150377967e
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 07e4bdb Wladimir J. van der Laan: Don't rename main thread at process level
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4715037 Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #17038: Don't rename main thread at process level
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #17038: Don't rename main thread at process level (master...2019_10_no_main_thread_rename) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17038
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] solon opened pull request #17042: contrib: fix minor typos in makeseeds.py (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17042
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 1 commit to 0.19: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/76ec335234ba...9fdaaecf4928
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.19 9fdaaec Wladimir J. van der Laan: Don't rename main thread at process level
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/47150377967e...c90ce0f709db
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faca1c2 MarcoFalke: doc: move-only: Steps for "before major release branch-off"
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c90ce0f Wladimir J. van der Laan: Merge #17022: doc: move-only: Steps for "before major release branch-off"
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #17022: doc: move-only: Steps for "before major release branch-off" (master...1909-docReleaseProcess) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17022
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fjahr opened pull request #17044: refactor: remove old bootstrap relevant code (master...pr15954) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17044
< meshcollider> Meeting? Or have I done the timezones wrong
< BlueMatt> meeting?
< moneyball> hello
< achow101> meeting?
< instagibbs> yes meeting
< wumpus> #startmeeting
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< kanzure> hi
< jeremyrubin> hi
< wumpus> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: wumpus sipa gmaxwell jonasschnelli morcos luke-jr sdaftuar jtimon cfields petertodd kanzure bluematt instagibbs phantomcircuit codeshark michagogo marcofalke paveljanik NicolasDorier jl2012 achow101 meshcollider jnewbery maaku fanquake promag provoostenator aj Chris_Stewart_5 dongcarl gwillen jamesob ken281221 ryanofsky gleb moneyball kvaciral
< promag> hi
< wumpus> thanks everyone for being so active the last few days, we're very close to 0.19.0rc1
< MarcoFalke> wumpus: uploading the ts from the 0.18 branch isn't going to reset fresh translations?
< MarcoFalke> Only those of 0.18?
< wumpus> MarcoFalke: yes, that would copy the 0.18 translations to 0.19
< wumpus> that's what you want right?
< wumpus> if not, I completely don't understand it
< MarcoFalke> Maybe copy 0.17 to 0.19, because 0.18 is also broken according to the reporter
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] napuri-metti opened pull request #17045: Create bitcoin (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17045
< wumpus> that makes more sense as 0.19 was copied from 0.18
< jonatack_> hi
< wumpus> but yes you could copy from further back
< wumpus> changes messages should just be ignored
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #17045: Create bitcoin (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17045
< luke-jr> context⁇
< wumpus> no proposed topics this week
< MarcoFalke> luke-jr: #17027
< gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17027 | the translations of Traditional Chinese in bitcoin_zh_TW.ts got clobbered to Simplified Chinese · Issue #17027 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
< wumpus> there's two PRs open for 0.19 that need review: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+milestone%3A0.19.0
< luke-jr> rather than 0.17, wouldn't it make more sense to copy the older 0.18 ts?
< wumpus> luke-jr: that's broken too
< luke-jr> ? "however, the bitcoin-core v18 release is not affected (yet) as v18 translation hasn't been updated since Mar 14 2019 a01925c"
< wumpus> apparently this is an older issue that only became apparent now; the 0.19 translation was copied from 0.18 when it was created
< wumpus> yes it was copied from 0.18 transifex, not 0.18 branch
< wumpus> the one on the 0.18 branch could still be ok?
< luke-jr> right, so why not copy 0.18 branch to transifex?
< wumpus> I don't know, that's what I proposed too
< achow101> it should be fine to upload .ts files from the branch to transifex
< luke-jr> also, wasn't 0.18 branch updated in July for 0.18.1?
< wumpus> ok, let's do that then
< wumpus> any other topics people want to discuss?
< MarcoFalke> Those are just gui issue
< MarcoFalke> Do they warrant holding back rc1?
< wumpus> anything that people want to merge early in the 0.20 cycle?
< wumpus> if so, we should probably start using "high-priority for review" again
< achow101> #16341
< achow101> :)
< gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16341 | Introduce ScriptPubKeyMan interface and use it for key and script management (aka wallet boxes) by achow101 · Pull Request #16341 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
< wumpus> MarcoFalke: the duplicate payment one is reasonably serious
< wumpus> MarcoFalke: agree wrt the other
< achow101> The duplicate paymentrequest one seems a bit contrived. it requires doing things on the command line that most people won't do
< achow101> but would be good to fix anyways
< MarcoFalke> The gui wouldn't allow to pay twice, right?
< wumpus> (although I doubt it would actually make a duplicate payment, the pay-to rejects them in the wallet right?)
< moneyball> #proposedmeetingtopic travis and #16148
< gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16148 | Travis timeouts · Issue #16148 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
< MarcoFalke> lol
< wumpus> achow101: ok will add that one
< * MarcoFalke> hides
< wumpus> achow101: it is already in high priority for review
< wumpus> #topic travis and #16148
< meshcollider> I think he's joking about merging early 0.20 :p
< gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16148 | Travis timeouts · Issue #16148 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
< jeremyrubin> I guess also with #16766 would be good to have some more people look at the changes and let me know if we need to start computing Balance separately from IsTrusted.
< gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16766 | wallet: Make IsTrusted scan parents recursively by JeremyRubin · Pull Request #16766 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
< wumpus> jeremyrubin: ok!
< moneyball> Hi
< wumpus> which is also already in high priority for review
< moneyball> I'd like to know if the project would like me to engage Travis to help out or not.
< jeremyrubin> Yup -- wasn't sure if we should discuss them explicitly as Achow did
< promag> #16963 for rc1?
< moneyball> MarcoFalke suggests I shouldn't in that PR but a few others would like me to.
< gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16963 | wallet: Fix unique_ptr usage in boost::signals2 by promag · Pull Request #16963 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
< wumpus> jeremyrubin: it's okay, though it might be more something for the wallet meeting
< jeremyrubin> moneyball: I think there's been progress on leaving travis altogether?
< moneyball> That is my understanding
< moneyball> But there are 3 devs who have upvoted me taking action
< wumpus> moneyball: it would be nice to get the issue with apt-get sorted out, but it's been going on for so long, people are not giving it much chance
< moneyball> I lean toward no but am happy to help if folks think it adds value
< moneyball> What is the realistic ETA for moving off of Travis?
< achow101> I think it would be nice to try all possible avenues. it might be less painful if we could get travis to work than to migrate away from them completely
< moneyball> If soon then it seems like a waste of time. If there is a good chance 3+ months or more then I'm happy to try
< MarcoFalke> Now that someone complained on Twitter, they were quite responsive in the ticket I filed (months ago). Though, it is hard to debug remotely and a solution might not be in sight any time soon.
< jeremyrubin> I think it's worthwhile -- insofar as travis works nicely for personal forks & it's not clear if the new core builds stuff will process those too?
< wumpus> achow101: it would, but, how realisticically is it going to get fixed? if it's just broken promises every time...
< moneyball> As I mention in the PR, I'd prefer to have at least one maintainer tell me it is valuable enough for me to work on it
< wumpus> the problem can't be on our side right?
< sdaftuar> who is actively working on migrating away from travis?
< wumpus> I mean, it's not some stupid option we've misconfigured
< sdaftuar> MarcoFalke ?
< wumpus> set apt mirror to black hole
< MarcoFalke> sdaftuar: I am running the ci on my odroid on my desk :)
< moneyball> jonasschnelli believe
< moneyball> But that is my question for everyone. What is the plan and when do we think we'd move off of Travis?
< MarcoFalke> Also, we can replace it with any other ci any time (if needed)
< moneyball> If no one knows or it is highly uncertain then it seems important to address the Travis issue
< sdaftuar> i think moneyball's question is right about wondering what a realistic timeline looks like for leaving
< sdaftuar> moneyball: that's my view as well
< MarcoFalke> I tested with GitHub Ci, Cirrus Ci and locally (odroid c2)
< MarcoFalke> GitHub Ci is in beta for at least one more month, so I wouldn't want to switch to that yet
< MarcoFalke> So let's say timeline is 3 months
< moneyball> jonasschnelli's tweet suggests his stuff should be ready for proposal in a month
< MarcoFalke> I'd say we wait a month and then re-evaluate
< moneyball> ok i'll plug in a meeting topic for 1 month from now
< MarcoFalke> I don't see anything that can be done right now, both on a communications side of things and switching away side of things
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] j15marti opened pull request #17046: 0.19 (master...0.19) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17046
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #17046: 0.19 (master...0.19) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17046
< MarcoFalke> Will write a short update comment on #16148, for anyone that is interested
< gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16148 | Travis timeouts · Issue #16148 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
< MarcoFalke> next topic?
< wumpus> is there a next topic?
< wumpus> FWIW I uploaded the 0.18 branch zh_TW.ts translation to 0.18 and 0.19 on transifex
< MarcoFalke> thx
< MarcoFalke> I wonder if other languages were affected as well
< wumpus> I wonder who did this
< wumpus> in the best case it's just someone's mistake not vandalism
< achow101> doesn't transifex store the history of a translation?
< wumpus> I think I just overwrote the metadata by uploading a ts
< wumpus> though maybe they keep the older data, I don't know
< wumpus> #endmeeting
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< achow101> wumpus: I still see the history
< achow101> for 0.18
< MarcoFalke> It says "changed 鼠标右击编辑地址或标签by gasper.cefarin, a month ago "
< achow101> looks like it was done by https://www.transifex.com/user/profile/gasper.cefarin/ who appears to be GChuf on github
< achow101> I'm guessing he accidentally uploaded the zh_CN file to zh_TW
< MarcoFalke> why is that person in so many language teams
< promag> anyone knows if we can bump libevent min version from 2.0.22?
< MarcoFalke> promag: There is a pull request open
< promag> for depends right?
< achow101> MarcoFalke: could just be someone who decided to join every language team
< MarcoFalke> achow101: hmm :eyes:
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #16540: test: Add ASSERT_DEBUG_LOG to unit test framework (master...1908-UnitTestAssertDebugLog) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16540
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke reopened pull request #16540: test: Add ASSERT_DEBUG_LOG to unit test framework (master...1908-UnitTestAssertDebugLog) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16540
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c90ce0f709db...f1f284aa757d
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0b1dcd3 Brian Solon: contrib: fix minor typos in makeseeds.py
< bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f1f284a MarcoFalke: Merge #17042: contrib: fix minor typos in makeseeds.py
< bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #17042: contrib: fix minor typos in makeseeds.py (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17042
< fanquake> That libevent PR isn’t to bump the minimum required.
< fanquake> promag why do you want to bump?
< promag> fanquake: if there's no strong reason to not bump then I could see if a newer version could simplify #15363
< gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15363 | wip: http: Exit the event loop as soon as there are no active events by promag · Pull Request #15363 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub