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<bobodeveloper>
Hi, i would like to look at how i could deploy NFTs on the bitcoin network with ordinals. i read about them but the dev docs ... where should i refer to ?
<bobodeveloper>
i want to create my own "open sea" for bitcoin network
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<bobodeveloper>
anyone here ? lol
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<instagibbs>
we got sidetracked into a bit of a delving conversation, but it mostly is resting on "is it ok if certain cases doesn't strictly improve the mempool", the type of thing cluster mempool is meant to achieve.
<instagibbs>
post-cluster mempool this mechanism will be replaced, but we don't want to support behavior now that might be relied upon, then later removed
<instagibbs>
sdaftuar anything else to add?
<sdaftuar>
instagibbs: i'm working on a modification to your branch that uses the feerate diagram test, which would eliminate that issue altogether i think
<instagibbs>
clusterifying eh
<sdaftuar>
it's actually not so bad, but ymmv
<instagibbs>
I'll wait for a branch 👍
<achow101>
instagibbs: this mechanism is compatible with cluster mempool?
<instagibbs>
achow101 yes, the question is will we sometimes accept something that cluster mempool would reject (see delving post)
<instagibbs>
and how bad is that, is it worth literally doing what cluster mempool would do to match up behavior exactly for 2-transaction case
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<instagibbs>
to make sure we're strictly making mempool better
<sipa>
achow101: the idea is that we want the 1p1c scenario now ro be a steict superset of what will eventually be allowed in the full post-clustermempool package-rbf case
<sipa>
*subset
<instagibbs>
sipa ACK
<sipa>
so that we're not enabling behavior that will need to be disallowed later
<achow101>
cool
<glozow>
so any users of 1p1c would be guaranteed to have their usage stay the same after clustermempool
<sipa>
of course, BIP125 is already broken, and permits things that we *should* disallow, but that's a separate discussion
<instagibbs>
for that narrow topology/use-case which is useful for LN et al
<glozow>
also as an fyi, after v3 I'll be focusing on the 1p1c package relay stuff, while instagibbs continues with package RBF + ephemeral anchors etc
<instagibbs>
yep thanks
<sdaftuar>
👍
<achow101>
#topic silent payments updates (josie)
<josie>
#25273 merged (yay!)
<gribble>
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25273 | wallet: Pass through transaction locktime and preset input sequences and scripts to CreateTransaction by achow101 · Pull Request #25273 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<josie>
will probably just push the changes anyways tomorrow and move forward.. if we end up needing to revert or change to something else for the hashing step, its easy to change
<josie>
RubenSomsen, sjors, and I had an in depth review of the changes on monday, feeling pretty confident that its the right step forward
<josie>
(as a reminder, the proposed change is to only hash the lowest outpoint and to include the sum of the input pubkeys in the hash)
<ryanofsky>
The main thing I would like is feedback on the design doc #28978. The audience is supposed to be bitcoin core developers, so I want to make sure it sure it understandable to other developers without requiring much background knowledge, and answers any questions. Link is to the doc is https://github.com/ryanofsky/bitcoin/blob/pr/ipcdoc/doc/design/multiprocess.md
<ryanofsky>
There are also other PRs that could be reviewed in #28722, but no major changes since last update
<dergoegge>
I'm not sure if that is a minisketch bug or a bug in the modified fuzz test
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<sipa>
dergoegge: huh, curious
<sipa>
looking
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<pinheadmz>
#29022 is small PR that closes an issue in bitcoin-tx utility, authored by new contributor. 2 ACKs already, could use some more experienced eyes on it, or might be RFM
<bitcoin-git>
[bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #28920: wallet: birth time update during tx scanning (master...2023_wallet_birhtime_update) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/28920
<_aj_>
jamesob: "backing a mailing list up to a git archive" == "public-inbox archive of mailing list" fwiw
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<jamesob>
_aj_: not quite... afaict, a lot of custom code needs to be written to backfill past posts into public-inbox, since it relies on watching a maildir/mbox
<jamesob>
public-inbox is so baroque and unfriendly that I think it may make sense to just write a python script to turn gzip'd ML archives into a git repo
<_aj_>
jamesob: no, not really?
<jamesob>
_aj_: how do you populate a maildir/mbox with emails that you don't have?
<jamesob>
if you can point me to the public-inbox utility to migrate in historical ML activity, I would be very grateful
<_aj_>
jamesob: huh? if you don't have them at all, you can't do anything?
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<jamesob>
I'm interested in archiving the whole history of the ML, which I don't have
<jamesob>
(but which can be obtained from the pipermail HTTP interface)
<_aj_>
https://github.com/ajtowns/pi-btc-dev-test was my go at importing the pipermail mbox files; they're not complete though (attachments get stripped or something iirc?). not sure where the script i used to do that ended up