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ugh, PR spam
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who deals with that these days?
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bitcoin/master 56e79fe fanquake: guix: use --build={arch}-guix-linux-gnu in cross toolchain
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bitcoin/master df31e46 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25861: guix: use --build={arch}-guix-linux-gnu in cr...
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achow101: // keyids is now all non-HD keys. Each key will have its own combo descriptor
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luke-jr >
achow101: isn't this going to be very excessive? having a descriptor SPKM for every key? :x
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achow101 >
luke-jr: only for non-HD wallets. there isn't really a way around that
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luke-jr >
also, where do new keys/descriptors get created when the keypool needs topping up? (non-HD still)
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achow101: seems like this is a major shortcoming of descriptor wallets
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luke-jr >
it's easy to say "only HD is supported" for them, but that doesn't work if you want to drop legacy wallet support..
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achow101 >
descriptor wallets are HD only
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luke-jr >
then we need to keep legacy wallet support indefinitely.. :/
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achow101: because there's no way to migrate a non-HD wallet?
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achow101 >
are there any users (other than yourself) who insist on using non-HD?
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luke-jr >
I would assume so
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earnestly >
It's a fair assumption for such important software
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every other wallet software is HD only, and we haven't had the ability to create non-HD wallets in years. afaik, no one has really asked for that functionality back
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(I always consider the stories of people remembering forgotten wallets and how they might be able to recover them)
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I don't know why people would ask for it back when you can just create one with 0.15 and copy it over
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Earnestly: migrating a non-HD wallet means that wallet will be HD after migration, any existing coins will be retained and can still be spent by the migrated wallet.
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
while people are here, what is a good way to present scripts that would make reviewing a pr easier for the reviewer?
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Yeah, it seems a bit of a stretch to think people will purposefully downgrade bitcoin core just to create a new non-hd wallet; but I can see plenty of people still having non-hd wallets
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
I'm putting the scripts in a seperate repo.
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
separate*
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luke-jr: yes, but I would expect users who don't know that to ask about it/ask for it back, and then they are instructed to use 0.15
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_: if they're short enough, I've seen them inlined in ``` blocks
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achow101 >
I can't recall any instance of anyone asking to create a non-HD wallet, whereas I have seen many about creating a HD wallet or converting a non-HD wallet to a HD one.
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
Okay awesome! mine might be pushing it. But I think it is still possible. Thanks.
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_: If I ever have to dump a large log, I use a <details> element. So <details><summary>name of log</summary>
*newline* ``` ... ```
*newline* </details> -> blank lines are important for ```
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That means they can click to expand it or collapse it, without needing any special javascript
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achow101: certainly HD are more popular at this point, that was never in question
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
Earnestly: Thanks
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Earnestly: without JS? :o
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
For test runner to run my functional test, do I have to add it to BASE_SCRIPTS ? It is looking like yes.
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luke-jr: Yep, pure html
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achow101 >
luke-jr: I just don't think there's enough demand to warrant the effort required to implement non-HD descriptor wallets
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(or at least, for me to implement it)
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achow101 >
if someone else wanted to implement it, I could give a brief outline of how I think it could be done
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luke-jr >
can descriptor wallets keep the SPKM around?
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luke-jr >
legacy SPKM*
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luke-jr: no, the wallet enforces that if there is a legacy spkm, it must be the only spkm
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however you can have a legacy spkm with sqlite as the db
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luke-jr >
would it be so terrible to allow the legacy SPKM inside a descriptor wallet?
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luke-jr >
thinking of the case where the user is fine with a HD going forward
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achow101 >
yes, it would be terrible
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legacy spkm has all of the dumb ismine things, allows mixing watchonly, unwatched, and spendable scripts, and provides all address types as a single spkm
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it just generally does not fit the descriptor wallet model at all
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and doesn't allow us to make simplifying assumptions for descriptor wallets
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luke-jr >
yes, it's pretty ugly
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
anyone use vscode to debug the python test runner?
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tbh I think the bigger issue is the inefficiency of thousands of SPKM when upgrading
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
I'm new to functional tests and getting this assertion mismatch error but my strings look the same
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
AssertionError: [node 0] Expected message "Invalid combination of -regtest, -signet, -testnet and -chain. Can use at most one. Chain argument is being set in commandline with network argument." does not fully match stderr:
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"************************
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EXCEPTION: St13runtime_error
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Invalid combination of -regtest, -signet, -testnet and -chain. Can use at most one. Chain argument is being set in commandline with network argument.
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
shit
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
i should paste bin that
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
sry
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the main benefit of non-HD I'm aware of, could be done better by having a scheduled seed/descriptor rotation
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though arguably that might just be recreating a non-HD in practice
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we could probably make a "a ton of keys" spkm for the non-hd migration
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or define a descriptor syntax to list out individual keys
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is a runtime error the same as a "assert_start_raises_init_error"
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although such a descriptor would be insanely big for a migrated wallet, so not sure how much better it would actually be
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_: no, that's a node startup issue, it's crashing on start. the test framework puts regtest into the bitcoin.conf for each node, if you're passing the argument for a different chain for your test, then that would be the cause of the problem. also, using a non-regtest chain in a functional test is generally incorrect.
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
ahhhhh interesting, i always have to test as if this is regtest
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
okay okay, that makes sense
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
My test is litterally testing that if there are chain collisions, this is going to be way more tricky than I thought
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achow101 >
ah, actually that error looks like it's testing that specific parameter interation
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and it's a test framework AssertionError because the string doesn't match exactly
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achow101 >
The "EXCEPTION: St13runtime_error " is part of the message printed to stderr
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
i just discovered that aswell and it now works!
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
Thanks so much man
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
This is really surprising how much work it is to get something working with all the unit tests and framework tests
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Kaizen_Kintsugi_ >
I'm learning so much
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this is awesome.
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achow101: hmm, a descriptor function that just uses a list of [existing] db keys?
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does having a few thousand spkm have a measurable performance impact?
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I would imagine that if it did, it would be in IsMine, and we could also do some caching in CWallet for non-ranged descriptor spkms to make that faster
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it has a measurable performance impact even with the current code
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luke-jr >
(ie, Legacy SPKM)
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I suppose I should actually benchmark this
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bitcoin/master 0ebd4db fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25978: test: fix non-determinism in p2p_headers_sync...
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bitcoin/master 88e7807 Suhas Daftuar: test: fix non-determinism in p2p_headers_sync_with_minchainwork.py
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[bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #26007: [contrib] message-capture-parser: fix AssertionError on parsing `headers` message (master...202209-messagecapture-fix_assertionerror_on_parsing_headers)
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26007
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[bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #26008: wallet: cache IsMine scriptPubKeys to improve performance of wallets with a lot of non-ranged descriptors (master...improve-many-desc-ismine)
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26008
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achow101: while benchmarking, please observe memory usage too if not too difficult
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