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<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] achow101 merged pull request #1055: achow101 27.0rc1 noncodesigned binary guix attestaion (main...27.0rc1) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1055
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<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main 9a3f810 Ava Chow: Merge pull request #1055 from achow101/27.0rc1
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<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] josibake opened pull request #1056: Add noncodesigned attestations by josibake for 27.0rc1 (main...josibake-27.0rc1-noncodesigned-attestations) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1056
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<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] theStack opened pull request #1057: Add theStack v27.0rc1 non-codesigned attestations (main...add_v27_0rc1_noncodesigned) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1057
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<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake merged pull request #1057: Add theStack v27.0rc1 non-codesigned attestations (main...add_v27_0rc1_noncodesigned) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1057
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<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main a6e4efe Sebastian Falbesoner: Add theStack v27.0rc1 non-codesigned attestations
<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main 427c47f fanquake: Merge pull request #1057 from theStack/add_v27_0rc1_noncodesigned
<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake merged pull request #1056: Add noncodesigned attestations by josibake for 27.0rc1 (main...josibake-27.0rc1-noncodesigned-attestations) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1056
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<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake opened pull request #1058: fanquake v27.0rc1 noncodesigned attestations (main...fanquake_noncodesigned_27_0rc1) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1058
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<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake merged pull request #1058: fanquake v27.0rc1 noncodesigned attestations (main...fanquake_noncodesigned_27_0rc1) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1058
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<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main cedc181 fanquake: fanquake v27.0rc1 noncodesigned attestations
<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main ca71abe fanquake: Merge pull request #1058 from fanquake/fanquake_noncodesigned_27_0rc1
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ab5dfdbec114...59567d7b9aae
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 33268a8 Max Edwards: test: exit with code 1 when no fn tests are found
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 59567d7 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#29576: Update functional test runner to return error...
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #29576: Update functional test runner to return error code when no tests are found to run (master...fn-test-runner-no-tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29576
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dergoegge opened pull request #29583: fuzz: Apply fuzz env (suppressions, etc.) when fetching harness list (master...2024-03-ubsan-sup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29583
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<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] TheCharlatan opened pull request #1059: Add TheCharlatan 27.0rc1 non-codesigned (main...TheCharlatan-27.0rc1-non-codesigned) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1059
<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake merged pull request #1059: Add TheCharlatan 27.0rc1 non-codesigned (main...TheCharlatan-27.0rc1-non-codesigned) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1059
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<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main 8701cce TheCharlatan: Add TheCharlatan 27.0rc1 non-codesigned
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #29362: build: Add missed definition for `AM_OBJCXXFLAGS` (master...240201-objcxx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29362
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/59567d7b9aae...c2c6a7d1dc16
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 49cf635 Hennadii Stepanov: qt, test: Set organization name
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0dcbad3 Hennadii Stepanov: qt, test: Clean settings after tests
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c2c6a7d Hennadii Stepanov: Merge bitcoin-core/gui#803: test: Set organization name
<bitcoin-git> [gui] hebasto merged pull request #803: test: Set organization name (master...240305-appname) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/803
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<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] m3dwards opened pull request #1060: Attestations for m3dwards non-codesigned v27.0rc1 (main...27.0rc1) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1060
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #29585: contrib: list other binaries in manpage output (master...list_other_pages_in_man) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29585
<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake merged pull request #1060: Attestations for m3dwards non-codesigned v27.0rc1 (main...27.0rc1) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1060
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<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main 76d2d36 Max Edwards: Attestations for m3dwards non-codesigned v27.0rc1
<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main 60bb927 fanquake: Merge pull request #1060 from m3dwards/27.0rc1
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<achow101> #startmeeting
<achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard aureleoules b10c BlueMatt brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge dongcarl fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jonatack josibake kallewoof kanzure kouloumos kvaciral laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr MacroFake Murch phantomcircuit pinheadmz promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa theStack TheCharlatan vasild
<stickies-v> hi
<hebasto> hi
<brunoerg> hi
<josie> hi
<furszy> hi
<instagibbs> hi
<Sjors[m]> hi
<Murch[m]> Hi
<glozow> hi
<achow101> There's 1 preproposed meeting topic today, any last minute ones to add?
<pinheadmz> hi
<maxedw> hi
<lightlike> hi
<sdaftuar> oh hi
<sipa> hi
<achow101> #topic package relay updates (glozow)
<theStack> hi
<glozow> I'm currently working on splitting the 2 refactoring commits out of #28970, and turning them into smaller changes for easier review.
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28970 | p2p: opportunistically accept 1-parent-1-child packages by glozow · Pull Request #28970 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<TheCharlatan> hi
<glozow> Trying to do it carefully as it feels a bit delicate. I'll have the PR up soon
<glozow> For package RBF, #29242 is helpful
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/29242 | Mempool util: Add RBF diagram checks for single chunks against clusters of size 2 by instagibbs · Pull Request #29242 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<glozow> (It should also be helpful for cluster mempool, so 2x reason to review it!)
<glozow> Oh and #29306 looks close to rfm. That's all
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/29306 | policy: enable sibling eviction for v3 transactions by glozow · Pull Request #29306 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<achow101> #topic cluster mempool updates (sdaftuar)
<sdaftuar> Hi, I pushed a rebase of the draft PR (#28676) this morning. This is still not a fully optimized implementation, and as a reminder the plan is still to re-engineer this to be awesome before moving the PR out of draft.
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28676 | [WIP] Cluster mempool implementation by sdaftuar · Pull Request #28676 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<sdaftuar> In the meantime, interested reviewers can run this branch locally and collect their own benchmarking information if they’d like. Also, you can use the `getmempoolfeesize` rpc to produce a feerate diagram of the whole mempool, which is fun to look at.
<sdaftuar> For now, anyone looking to help can look at the test changes in the draft PR and start thinking about ways to improve what I’ve done (or fix tests I’ve broken) or add additional test coverage.
<sdaftuar> In a few weeks, I’ll likely start pinging people for help with changes to mini_miner and the wallet.
<sdaftuar> Currently, I’m starting do some initial benchmarking of how the current (unoptimized) implementation performs on historical data, and comparing with master.
<sdaftuar> These findings will be most interesting once we have a more fully optimized transaction graph module to use, but I can report some initial statistics on this unoptimized implementation to give everyone a sense of what we’re at right now, and to start answering some of the questions I posed in the OP of #28676.
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28676 | [WIP] Cluster mempool implementation by sdaftuar · Pull Request #28676 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<sdaftuar> that's all for me
<achow101> #topic silent payments update (josie)
<josie> still heads down on reviewing and hashing out ideas for the libsecp module. based on that, i think id like to remove silent payments as a priority project for v28
<josie> last week i was optimistic that the work could happen in parallel, but after trying that for a week, i dont think its a good idea
<achow101> we can replace silent payments with legacy wallet removal since that has the next most votes
<glozow> ACK
<josie> yeah, seems like a better use of this meeting time
<TheCharlatan> +1
<brunoerg> ack
<sipa> sgtm
<stickies-v> +1
<achow101> #topic legacy wallet removal updates (achow101)
<sipa> that was fast
<TheCharlatan> :D
<achow101> The tracking issue is #20160
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20160 | Proposed Timeline for Legacy Wallet and BDB removal · Issue #20160 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<josie> haha great minds etc
<Murch[m]> ACK
<hebasto> ack
<achow101> Current pr to review is #26606
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26606 | wallet: Implement independent BDB parser by achow101 · Pull Request #26606 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] furszy opened pull request #29586: wallet: default wallet migration, modify inconvenient backup filename (master...2024_wallet_migration_empty_wallet_backup_name) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29586
<furszy> add 29586 to the list.
<furszy> :p
<achow101> #topic Ad-hoc high priority for review
<achow101> Anything to add or remove from https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/1/views/4
<hebasto> achow101: maybe make priorities as pinned gh issues again?
<b10c> hi
<achow101> hebasto: yes, will do that
<fanquake> don't think we can do that while we are testing rcs etc
<achow101> we can only have 3 pinned at a time
<achow101> #topic assumeutxo mainnet chainparams for v27 (fjahr)
<fjahr> Hi, so it was pretty much agreed to get the assumeutxo main net chainparams in for v27. Unfortunately there are still some blockers, some of which that were not tagged for v27. So there would still be some review work needed, namely #26045 and #29519
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26045 | rpc: Optimize serialization disk space of dumptxoutset by aureleoules · Pull Request #26045 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/29519 | p2p: For assumeutxo, download snapshot chain before background chain by mzumsande · Pull Request #29519 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
<fjahr> Question is if people think we should delay the release for this so that v27 can have the main net chainparams included.
<fjahr> IMO the two PRs are not much work to review but there wasn't much action on them lately so it would need more peoples attention
<fanquake> I don't think so. It's a shame that the relvant PR's haven't gotten review, but clearly (bad) bugs are still being found, and I don't see any conclusion to the GUI discussion?
<fjahr> I think most people don't see the GUI as a blocker, aside from luke probably...
<lightlike> I think we should make a decision whether it's acceptable to just have entries added to chainparams, without having any distribution mechanism.
<instagibbs> lightlike to be clear, you mean not having some built in distribution mechanism?
<fanquake> Sure, we can disregard the GUI, but not all the unreviewed code and remaining bugs
<fjahr> The distribution mechanism was not part of James' proposal so if that is a blocker that should have been pointed out much earlier
<fanquake> and I don't see a pressing reason to rush all that in, post branch of, and an rc1 tag
<lightlike> not necessarily. we could also have consensus to put it on awbebsite, or maybe a torrent or whatever.
<sipa> imo without distribution mechanism it's not really usable for non-expert users anyway, so i don't think having the parameters set matters much?
<achow101> since the release cycle for 27.0 was much shorter than usual, I think it's okay that some things we thought could make it to 27.0 don't, and we can defer them to 28.0
<achow101> i'd rather not push the release back, otherwise we get back to the inconvenient release timings that we are trying to avoid
<fjahr> and there are good ways to get around it, I don't think we need to block people from using it like who set up a btcpayserver. They even had their own solution for this for some time.
<fjahr> Anyone can put it in a torrent or on a website
<sipa> fair point, these pre-packaged systems can make use of it
<instagibbs> I agree, but I don't think delaying release is the right move
<sipa> that may in practice mean that the distribution aspect is just handled by them
<fanquake> If delaying the release was ever going to happen, this should have been raised weeks ago, not after branch-off
<sipa> fanquake: agreed
<josie> +1
<fjahr> ok, still wanted to raise the point. I hope everyone help by keeping it in mind for v28. Thanks!
<achow101> Any other topics to discuss?
<achow101> #endmeeting
<instagibbs> fjahr I think it makes sense to merge mainnet params any time once bug hunting is finished, let people start testing in more live fashion
<Chris_Stewart_5> sdaftuar: Have you written about what you view as the deployment story for cluster mempool? I.e. deploy behind some sort of -clustermempool flag and if this isn't active use old mempool logic. If you have, please link
<sdaftuar> Chris_Stewart_5: no special thought given to that. currently i can't think of a reason why we wouldn't just deploy in the next release after the PR is merged.
<Chris_Stewart_5> and that means ripping out the old logic and replacing it with the new logic wholesale ?
<fjahr> instagibbs: how do we know that bug hunting is finished? How do you measure that?
<sdaftuar> essentially, yes. the way i've staged the branch so far is that i add the cluster implementation and limits first, and then remove the existing ancestor/descendant tracking
<instagibbs> fjahr well, at least close out the current PRs/issues
<sdaftuar> in theory, we could merge something that just adds cluster limits and doesn't take away the other stuff? but this seems like a worse idea to me.
<instagibbs> if they're blockers as described
<Chris_Stewart_5> Cool, i'll take a look in the next few weeks. That context helps with what the goal currently is and if it affects any public facing APIs
<sdaftuar> sounds good, thanks! feel free to drop questions here or on the PR as you go through it
<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] Emzy opened pull request #1061: Add Emzy Guix attestations for 25.2rc1 26.1rc1 27.0rc1 non-codesigned (main...main) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1061
<fjahr> instagibbs: If everyone would have been passionate about the chainparams we could have probably done it in a few days but it's fine, I just wanted to raise awareness but I already knew the chance were slim of that happening
<instagibbs> just trying to encourage it to happen whenever it's ready, not wait for a release
<instagibbs> for the first time around, later on I think syncing with releases makes sense
<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake merged pull request #1061: Add Emzy Guix attestations for 25.2rc1 26.1rc1 27.0rc1 non-codesigned (main...main) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1061
<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/compare/60bb92701798...ca8f11cd62db
<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main 4800cf9 Stephan Oeste: Add Emzy Guix attestations for 25.2rc1 26.1rc1 27.0rc1 non-codesigned
<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main ca8f11c fanquake: Merge pull request #1061 from Emzy/main
<Chris_Stewart_5> also low priority review item: #29371 (good beginner review item for those looking to understand the interpreter/tapscript more)
<gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/29371 | test: Add `leaf_version` parameter to `taproot_tree_helper()` by Christewart · Pull Request #29371 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c2c6a7d1dc16...67fb94ce4220
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bd8f035 Hennadii Stepanov: build: Add missed definition for `AM_OBJCXXFLAGS`
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8b7630c fanquake: build: ignore deprecated-declaration warnings in objc++ macOS code
<bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 67fb94c fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#29577: build: ignore deprecated-declarations warning...
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #29577: build: ignore deprecated-declarations warnings in objc++ macOS code (master...alternative_29362) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29577
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fu3x11 opened pull request #29587: cool stuff (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29587
<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #29587: cool stuff (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29587
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<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] glozow opened pull request #1062: glozow attestations 27.0rc1 noncodesigned (main...27.0rc1-non) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1062
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Christewart opened pull request #29589: tests: Fix bug `CScriptOp.encode_op_n()` where `OP_1NEGATE` was not handled correctly (master...2024-03-07-op1neg-py) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29589
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<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake merged pull request #1062: glozow attestations 27.0rc1 noncodesigned (main...27.0rc1-non) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1062
<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake pushed 3 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/compare/ca8f11cd62db...06d5e77403ad
<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main 497e6e3 glozow: update glozow.gpg
<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main 7292335 glozow: glozow attestations 27.0rc1 noncodesigned
<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main 06d5e77 fanquake: Merge pull request #1062 from glozow/27.0rc1-non
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] aureleoules closed pull request #26045: rpc: Optimize serialization disk space of dumptxoutset (master...2022-09-dumputxoset-compact) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26045
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<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] Kvaciral opened pull request #1063: 27.0rc1 kvaciral noncodesigned (main...27.0rc1-attestations-nocodesigned-kvaciral) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1063
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<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake merged pull request #1063: 27.0rc1 kvaciral noncodesigned (main...27.0rc1-attestations-nocodesigned-kvaciral) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/pull/1063
<bitcoin-git> [guix.sigs] fanquake pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/guix.sigs/compare/06d5e77403ad...77c342686574
<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main 41efe93 Dimitri: 27.0rc1 kvaciral noncodesigned
<bitcoin-git> guix.sigs/main 77c3426 fanquake: Merge pull request #1063 from Kvaciral/27.0rc1-attestations-nocodesigned-k...
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<bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] russeree closed pull request #28400: Make provably unsignable standard P2PK and P2MS outpoints unspendable. (master...23-08-16-prune-unspenable-p2ms-p2pk) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/28400
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