<prayank>
RubenSomsen: If you can answer everything in Twitter, Telegram channel and now IRC I could not understand why moderation was left for other moderator. If it was left for one person to decide and he chose to censor, I have all the rights to express myself.
<prayank>
Btw I was writing emails to mailing list when I had covid.
<prayank>
kanzure: which emails do you keep in queue? Never updated or moderated? Why don't you share the reasons for it
<bitcoin-git>
[bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #24484: guix: use same commit for codesigning time-machine (master...sync_guix_time_machine) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24484
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<achow101>
I think we will have to skip the codesigned binaries for 23.0rc1. There appears to be some issues with guix-codesign and codesigning for M1 Mac
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<bitcoin-git>
bitcoin/master 29862bd fanquake: guix: use same commit for codesigning time-machine
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<michaelfolkson>
Reminder that this channel is for Bitcoin Core development discussion. There is a #bitcoin-dev channel for discussion of mailing list, BIPs etc. prayank has been told that on multiple occasions now
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<laanwj>
i mean don't take this the wrong way but if you don't heed the rules in a mailing list or IRC channel and are rude when someone reminds you about them, and annoy enough people, there's a chance you get kicked out
<laanwj>
this really rarely happens here but there is somewhere the buck stops, you can call it "censorship" but this was never promised to be a free-for-all
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<prayank>
laanwj: ban me I will see how this works and your hypocrisy or other things
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<laanwj>
prayank: it's not personal
<prayank>
dont make it
<laanwj>
you're being extremely childish
<laanwj>
this isn't high school or something, we're all adults here trying to do our work and be proffesional
<prayank>
Child doesn't post about RBF when in covid on mailing list
<prayank>
And I have done enough of adult work in review
<prayank>
which you or your echo chamber never paid attention to
<prayank>
Irony it can be reviewed by Microsoft's Github
<laanwj>
that's absolutely great, and completely out of scope for what i'm trying to say, no matter what else you do when you're in this channel, you need to heed it's rules
<prayank>
where were the rules when moderator of mailing list askes to censor people?
<andytoshi>
sorry to back-seat op here, but somebody pls boot prayank. this sort of shit is discouraging to many contributors, not just those directly affected. i understand the desire not to censor or "be the bad guy" but i think this has gone far enough
<laanwj>
i'm also not interested in argument about this, consider this a warning
<andytoshi>
and this is a long-term pattern of behavior
<prayank>
laanwj: what are you interested about? why don't you warn your own people in the echo chamber?
<prayank>
do you think banning me will stop this?
<prayank>
andytoshi: what was your last contribution to this channel? you can send behaviour analysis emails to prayank[at]tutanota[dot]de
<darosior>
andytoshi: +1
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<bitcoin-git>
[bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #24485: [23.x] guix: use same commit for codesigning time-machine (23.x...backport_24484) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24485
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<jonatack>
prayank: we all need the good will of colleagues to get things done. in remote work, a couple of good rules of thumb are (a) be kind and presume good intentions unless proven otherwise (and be kind anyway! being mean says more about the transmitter than the receiver) and (b) stay humble, our own ego is the enemy. I can't say i always manage to do
<jonatack>
them but I do think of them frequently and find them helpful.
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<prayank>
jonatack: I respect you but where does "censorship" comes here or is it only for social media or when it affects you. Bitcoin dev mailing list is not same as anything as anything in this world for me. It was used to settle things when they could not be done on github, reddit, twitter etc. if that is vulnerable to one person deciding what is good enoug for others to see its same as facebook, twitter etc. I have tried my best to
<prayank>
contribute to bitcoin and sometimes being in places where you never would want to be.
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<jonatack>
prayank: if there really is censorship happening, better to be censured than to be the one doing the censoring. take a break, shake it off, it's part of life, keep putting one foot after the other, stay kind, keep focused, do the work no matter what people do. easier said than done to be sure, i empathize
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<jonatack>
same goes for any other unpleasant stuff. it's part of the deal, the ying/yang or whatever you want to call it, happens to everyone. let it go, move forward
<jonatack>
we're all just imperfect people. kindness is underrated. /end of spiel
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<laanwj>
we probably want to hold off the update of bestblock somehow until the rescan finished: #24487
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<laanwj>
i understand the rationale for registering the chain updates before starting the rescan, but this seems unintended
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<laanwj>
probably should have 23.0 milestone because i think it can cause (perceived) funds loss
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<prayank>
darosior: jamesob: your contributions will not go waste, I will respond to them. And they will be according to open source things followed by this repo.
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<ariard>
prayank: i hear you're frustated because your contributions are not appreciated at the value you would like them to be, however the other contributors don't owe you their time or interest, they're free human beings. Even if you interpret that as detrimental for your FOSS career growth or whatever
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<ariard>
prayank: if you still think there is active censorship or conspiracy against you, you can pick up a new avatar/identity for your contributions on the ml/GH, adopt a different writing style and see if it makes a difference
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<prayank>
ariard: test
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<jonatack>
laanwj: day 11 and almost done with reindex-chainstate :D
<prayank>
ariard: re: new avatar - yes I thought about it considering the things. I would do it after deleting all my accounts because I still want to contribute to Bitcoin. I gave up after I wake up, saw after everything on websites, asked one reliable dev who sadi pls dont give up as we all tried to at some point. Me giving up would affect bitcoin and thats not what I want.
<laanwj>
jonatack: nice! so no problems yet?
<jonatack>
laanwj: not that i've seen other than getpeerinfo/-netinfo behavior being different in ways that I want to verify codewise, otherwise it's just chugging along, 98% now
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<jonatack>
(maybe you're thinking of an aspect that i haven't checked or noticed)
<laanwj>
jonatack: it's to verify the new chainparams right? i think validation will fail in a clearly visible way if they're wrong
<laanwj>
though testing other things is ofcourse useful too
<jonatack>
laanwj: right, to verify chainparams so yes that seems fine so far, along with wallet transaction history coming back gradually as well
<jonatack>
will re-verify chainparams when it's done tomorrow morning hopefully
<jonatack>
(also just to see what happens while doing it)
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<jamesob>
jonatack: +1
<jamesob>
(to zen rant)
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